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turboomni

Elite Veteran

Above the Equator

I still like my old x9303

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

01-12-2014 04:32 AM
Justin Stuart

rrMaster

Plano, Texas

Can I get one that is DSMX so I don't have to buy all new receivers again?

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01-12-2014 06:02 AM
Chet Whitford

Elite Veteran

usa

No way I could justify 3K for a TX.
There is nothing it could possibly do that would make flying any more fun for me.

01-12-2014 12:12 PM
Heli_Splatter

Veteran

Silver Spring, MD by way of Sidney, Ne - USA

28 Channels??

Apparently it does. If you have to transmit the data for all 28 channels linearly, the primary channels will suffer. Now if you only transmit the channels that have changed since the last iteration, then maybe the number of channels is much larger (not infinite). Now then if you are transmitting simultaneously on multiple channels, then the cost of the RF Deck and the receivers is going to multiply. The software will have to coordinate all those channels and conflicts. As the number of channels increases, this becomes more difficult.

Storing 7,000 model airplanes? that is the easy part. Finding the one you want to use is the hard part.
The number of channels has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of a radio. Software does not care what number you put in - 100 flight modes, 1000 models, 500 channels. The cost to develop the software is exactly the same.

Rex800, Rex550, 2ea-EXI500s, Rex450, 3ea-EXI450 + QuadZilla + 450quad

01-12-2014 01:02 PM
Pistol_Pete

rrProfessor

Seffner, FL

A swing and a miss...by JR.

Only IF they brough back screens on top of radio like fhe good old 8103.

Jeti got it right but overpriced 16ch but they do have a 14ch around the corner.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

01-12-2014 01:19 PM
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FlyforMaelle

New Heliman

Canada

Cool plank tx

Lol 28 channels. Why not 309-1/2 channels? Cool airshow scale plank tx though.

01-12-2014 01:19 PM
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Eury

rrProfessor

Nottingham NH

Jeti got it right but overpriced 16ch but they do have a 14ch around the corner.
You think the 16 is overpriced, the 14 is much worse. $400 less with much of the functionality taken away, but upgrades are available to bring most of them back. They should have priced it at $700.

Nick Crego

Citizen #0168

01-12-2014 02:08 PM
Dr.Ben

rrProfessor

Richmond, VA, USA

It is remarkable how well preserved these prerelease flagship radio threads are. Technical details aside, all you have to do is take the original 14MZ thread and insert 28X everywhere the 14MZ is. Same goes for the original 18MZ thread. It's always the same thing. Too much money, don't need it, you're crazy for spending that kind of money, don't like the styling, yada yada yada. At least for a little while longer we have the freedom to buy or not buy what we want to. For JR folks, this was long overdue. For Futaba folks, I have no doubt that Futaba will up the ante once again in due time (and I am not saying I have ANY intel on this, because I absolutely DO NOT).

Ben Minor

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01-12-2014 04:23 PM
Qrrambero

Key Veteran

San Francisco / Bay Area

It's always the same thing. Too much money, don't need it, you're crazy for spending that kind of money, don't like the styling, yada yada yada. At least for a little while longer we have the freedom to buy or not buy what we want to. For JR folks, this was long overdue.
Amen

Ae

01-12-2014 04:34 PM
RogerRabbit62

Veteran

Thuerigen germany

+1 from my side.
Most of the people writing and complaining never had those in their hands nor did fly them ans see the difference.

01-12-2014 06:13 PM
FlyforMaelle

New Heliman

Canada

hahahahaha

I retract my comment I see someone beat me to it and definitely made me laugh.
28 channels, oh common!
And 15 flight modes!!, no where near enough.
If it had a built in 2000 watt lipo charger, it may compete.

01-12-2014 09:27 PM
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3dgimble

Key Veteran

Rochester

Futaba and JR should be working on much better ideas, I mean how many channels can one use on a FKing heli?

Futaba and JR should work better ergonomics, collapsing switches/ detachable, tilting screens, wireless buddy boxing, super battery life.
Better one would be incorporating one of those STUPID phones into the radios as a screen, being able to remove the screen and replacing it with your phone, so you can download or upload more useless information for your model. Nice touch of the phone as your screen would be able to update firmware direct from the net.
Are you listening Futaba and JR?

$3000 and they don't even come with cloaking or able to fold up small to fit in my pocket!

01-13-2014 01:24 AM
Blanka

Senior Heliman

lover city

A better comparison is the Jeti Ds16 which goes for $1500 with a very similar feature set (I'd imagine). I'm guessing this comes in between $1500 and $2000.
but the Jeti is a full CNC case made in Europe and 28X is a plastic box with aluminium chassis made in Asia
No way I could justify 3K for a TX.
neither do I
I do belive 3K for a RC tablet is too much money.
I do agree with Four Stroke it will be under $1500

01-13-2014 03:45 AM
Four Stroker

Elite Veteran

Atlanta

Competition in every price range is a good thing. Up until now, there was no competition for the 18MZ. I don't take the Jeti, Profi, Wea seriously. Spektrum may be the next to develop a super radio.

What do people want ? In addition to rubbery sticks with no centering like game consoles and talking telemetry, I can now add wireless connectivity and Android apps. While at the same time curves and swash modes will disappear.

Things that will never happen:

1) a standard communications protocol
2) a standard serial bus
3) potless servos that work
4) standard servo connectors

Marketing departments of all brands love the buzz. There is a lot of information for them in the buzz. They use the buzz to develop the product OR sometimes just the marketing hype.


Eury;

If you can get a color touch screen for $500 and a complete CNC heli for $500, how much is a color touch screen and CNC gimbals worth ? I think about $1500 is a good price point.

01-13-2014 01:39 PM
l4rg0

Senior Heliman

Northfield, KY - USA

Things that will never happen:
1) a standard communications protocol
2) a standard serial bus
3) potless servos that work
4) standard servo connectors
Look up UDI, AKA XBUS Mode 2

FBL manufacturers are standardizing on it, and dragging radio companies along kicking and screaming

Team A Main Hobbies/ProTek R/C
Spartan Avionics Field Rep

01-13-2014 01:56 PM
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Eury

rrProfessor

Nottingham NH

If you can get a color touch screen for $500 and a complete CNC heli for $500, how much is a color touch screen and CNC gimbals worth ? I think about $1500 is a good price point.
I don't think that $1500 is a bad price point. I own a Jeti, and I see the value in owning high end transmitters. I was referring to the comment about the Jeti DS14 being better priced. I don't think that the DS14 is a good value compared to the competition, but the DS16, and the 28x if it comes in around the same price are very fair for what you get.

Nick Crego

Citizen #0168

01-13-2014 02:22 PM
Qrrambero

Key Veteran

San Francisco / Bay Area

Maybe, JR needs to do like Align. Cut the profit margin and sell volume.
Thanks to Align the price of Helicopters and some electronics are down.

Ae

01-13-2014 03:03 PM
Ace Dude

rrProfessor

USA

Maybe, JR needs to do like Align. Cut the profit margin and sell volume.
Thanks to Align the price of Helicopters and some electronics are down.
And so is the quality.



01-13-2014 03:12 PM
Four Stroker

Elite Veteran

Atlanta

Is S.Bus2 UDI ?

01-13-2014 03:21 PM
Bouchah

Key Veteran

Willow Spring, N. Carolina USA

And so is the quality
Oh brother, are we back to that again, beating up Align about quality?!

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01-13-2014 03:26 PM
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