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Monroe, NJ 08831

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I may very well get to try one of these on a new project. Building a 700 gasser, and while the majority of my fleet runs Skookum avionics, the Helicommand seems to be the strong favorite.

04-19-2013 10:10 PM
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RM3

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Killeen, Texas - USA

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..I'm sorry but i don't see anything that screams quality above industry standards in any photo...Ive designed PCBs for over 4 years and had them farmed out by sending the artwork to a company here in Texas to make the boards...then another comany in Texas to solder the components onto them...
now if you were comparing to a homemade single sided PCB with process components from Radio Shack...ok its quality over that...

all those photos tell me is mass production....quality IMO has more to do with hands on component selection, assembly tolerances, process control and product testing prior to shipment...

as for the metal case...CNCed metal is about as common as you can get...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

04-19-2013 10:46 PM
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Mty-Helis

Heliman

MTY,NL,MX

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Price

I want to try one on a plane before the heli version. but its just too expensive for a plane!

Felipe

04-19-2013 11:07 PM
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RobMcQuillen

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Rochester, NY

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It's a tough crowd here...
A few pictures from a production line really don't scream quality, and untouchable quality at that.
It says production line. Having dealt with production lines for the past 30 some years, it's not what they look like that counts.
Helicommand/ Bavarian Demon does not need a quality check from RR
Try a unit for yourself..
Rob

Rob McQuillen

04-19-2013 11:15 PM
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GetToDaChopper

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Las Vegas , NV

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Guys if you can't tell how high quality by looking at them don't beat yourself up over it that's ok not everybody is able to recognize quality when they see it you can just take my word for it, they are made with very high quality materials and manufacturing processes, bavarianDEMON has their sh_t together and to those who know what to look for it really shows.....
it's not what they look like that counts.
I fully agree, i made this thread just to show the high quality materials and manufacturing processes bavarianDEMON has inside and anyone who is trying to talk about anything other than what's physically inside the unit isn't talking about what the thread's about which is the quality of materials and manufacturing that go's into making the bavarianDEMON FBL controller !

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04-20-2013 12:10 AM
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icanfly

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gtdc, have you been spanked?
It's a tough crowd here...
Nice pics of the best gyro on the market but economics pull people away from top quality.

End pins are better because the connectors don't stick up when mounting on the tail block or on the sides. I wish ALL my rx's were end pins. (glad my gyros are)

Cases that are anodized blue, red, orange, yellow, green, black, purple/magenta, ice blue, pink, clear, and gawd knows what ever else, would certainly be impressive while being fun at the same time.

Hey HeliCommand, you gonna need my address to send me a freebie filling you in on the market want's, where the money is? and lower the price even a cool hundred and your sales will double,

(Id like a hc3-xs or sx? there you go). THANKS, or is dat,

DUNKASHOEN

nice pics

04-20-2013 12:20 AM
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GetToDaChopper

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have you been spanked?
Nope, not in the last 40 years anyways...........
End pins are better because the connectors don't stick up when mounting on the tail block or on the sides
ya i was thinking the same thing when i first got mine, but it turn out for me anyways that it was ok either way for my install and for where i really wanted to mount it so it wasn't a deal breaker for me.......

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04-20-2013 12:23 AM
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Manny1776

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don't know why keeping the design of old Helicommand metal case... what a crap design with outputs on the top also it does come with a single MEMS sensor.
this is the VBAR clone, isn't it high quality ?
3 single sensors and compatible with Mikado software
Is kind of wire that V-bar don't have any version with self leveling system like the Hs3x!!!!

Fly High, Fly Fun, Fly Secure.........Fly 3D!!!! Bavarian Demon USA Team

04-20-2013 01:15 AM
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GetToDaChopper

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also it does come with a single MEMS sensor.
this is the VBAR clone, isn't it high quality ?
3 single sensors and compatible with Mikado software
i'm sorry but i can't quite make out what your saying or asking there ??? if your trying to say it uses one MEMS sensor that's incorrect, no FBL controller that i know of has only one MEMS sensor, and what does the number of MEMS sensors have to do with the quality of the unit ??? AND i am in no way trying to say that other FBL controllers are not high quality as well !

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04-20-2013 01:21 AM
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McKrackin

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Just because it is a clone of a high quality unit does NOT in any way say it is high quality!!!!
Sarcasm is wasted on you,I see.lol....

I literally never use the word literally right.

04-20-2013 02:14 AM
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Blanka

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V-bar don't have any version with self leveling system like the Hs3x!!!!
self leveling is a must..LOL
what does the number of MEMS sensors have to do with the quality of the unit
VBAR, 3GX, and some other systems are now using 3 single sensors rather than a single 3 in 1....

04-20-2013 02:42 AM
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Stephen Born

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Just because it is a clone of a high quality unit does NOT in any way say it is high quality!!!!
bavarianDEMON is not a knock off of the HeliCommand unit. On the contrary, they are both from Captron in Bavaria, Germany.

It seems Joachim and staff have set the bar higher for the competition to reach.
VBAR, 3GX, and some other systems are now using 3 single sensors rather than a single 3 in 1....
Imitation is the best flattery, and can only be encouraged through competition.

Team AMain Hobbies (HeliProz)
Team Evo Power Batteries
PerformancePlusRC

04-20-2013 02:59 AM
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GetToDaChopper

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VBAR, 3GX, and some other systems are now using 3 single sensors rather than a single 3 in 1....
that is also incorrect, none of the X series uses a 3 in 1 sensor, so if your going to try to knock something that you (that is now obvious) know nothing about you should at least learn the basic facts about what it is your trying to knock, i've seen this sort of thing time and time again when someone is heavily invested a competing product OR just don't like whatever is being talked about they will lash out aginst it without knowing basicly what it's all about or how it works EVENTHOUGH nobody was even talking bad about whatever it is that they own OR like, now how do i know that they own a competing product OR like something else ? because they will TELL YOU SO by talking about the competing product that they own OR whatever it is they like and telling you how much better their competing product OR whatever it is they like is (and that no one was even talking about or saying anything bad about before they showed up) and in the same breath slam what WAS being talked about without even know the basics of what it is they are slaming.

this sort of thing reminds me of politics and the tactics of a negative campaign BUT at least the people in politics that are running the negative campaign KNOW eveything that there is to know about what or who it is they are slamming before they start slamming it with incorrect information and falsehoods.......

BUT oh well what can ya do ? i ain't going to lose sleep over it.......

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04-20-2013 04:58 AM
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ICUR1-2

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VBAR, 3GX, and some other systems are now using 3 single sensors rather than a single 3 in 1
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none of the X series uses a 3 in 1 sensor
next time try rewording your title to something less challenging like
" cool pics from the factory "

spending time, paying attention

04-20-2013 05:31 AM
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GetToDaChopper

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point taken..... but nether of those quotes have anything to do with the title of the thread ? could you explane why you think those two quotes are "=" ?

i guess what i'm asking is what do those two quotes have to do with your post about the title maybe being challenging ? i just want to understand all of what you are trying to say.....

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04-20-2013 06:06 AM
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Magneto 3D

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Looks like a Quality German product to me Im going to give it a go, Ive heard good things!

04-20-2013 06:46 AM
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ICUR1-2

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sorry to confuse

you were saying the same thing from my pov

the part about the thread was an added post

spending time, paying attention

04-20-2013 07:21 AM
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GetToDaChopper

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oh i see, he was saying that that bavarianDEMON uses a 3 in 1 sensor and i was saying that does not and never has used a 3 in 1 sensor which is correct so quite the opposite.

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04-20-2013 07:32 AM
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Blanka

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04-20-2013 01:57 PM
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Rotormaster

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LOL come on, surely you know by now that they are in fact one and the same ! have you been living under a rock ?
Well, if by 'living under a rock' you mean that my entire life doesn't revolve around toy helicopters, then... Yes, of course!

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