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Blade 300x pluses and minuses
Mitchilito

Veteran

Morehead City, NC USA

I've had my 300 for a week now and I just wanted to share my experience with it. Keep in mind, I've had just about every blade heli ever made (and a bunch more besides).

First thing I will say is that it has steadily grown on me since I got it. What's really striking about it is its simplicity. And because of this (and some nice engineering) it is extremely light weight. And the Spektrum/BeastX unit is absolutely the BOMB - period.

I'm going to go on record and say that right now there's almost nothing I don't like about it. Mine is bone stock except for HH carbon main blades and I don't feel the need to mod it in any way. I particularly like the belt drive tail. Simple and bullet proof (especially after operating the 130x for several months)

The only thing I'm not too sure of is the DS76 servos. My experience is that their gear trains are delicate but on the 300 they are fast with zero deadband.

It's funny that there's just not a lot being said about this machine on RR. I take that as a sign of its completeness and lack of issues.

Good job HH!

02-15-2013 Over year old.
wrongler

rrProfessor

Brewerton, New York

Minus first, I have one that I could not get the vibration out of, Some new parts from HH did not cure it.

Pluses, HH told me to ship it to them and they would fix it.
I'll let you know what I think when it gets back, I'm sending 2 of them!

" RIP Roman "

02-15-2013 Over year old.
Mitchilito

Veteran

Morehead City, NC USA

Mine needed SERIOUS tail blade balancing right out of the box. Tom was dead-on when he ran down the balance process of running it without main blades before first flight.

Serious tail blade vibs were revealed instantly. I isolated heavy blade with tape then sanded tip of heavy blade. It's now smooth as glass.

I think HH has an issue here but it's so easy to fix (and the heli so awesome) I don't mind it at all.

02-15-2013 Over year old.
itsjojo

Key Veteran

North East Pennnsylvania

Ditto, ditto!!!

I've had my 300 for a week now and I just wanted to share my experience with it. Keep in mind, I've had just about every blade heli ever made (and a bunch more besides).
First thing I will say is that it has steadily grown on me since I got it. What's really striking about it is its simplicity. And because of this (and some nice engineering) it is extremely light weight. And the Spektrum/BeastX unit is absolutely the BOMB - period.

Hi guys,
I just couldn't resist either. I learned on all the cp pros, S/R and I went flybarless on my trex's and never looked back. I knew last year I would eventually buy one but had problems with my personal life. Lol.
On Valentines day / and separated, I stopped buy the LHS to look at one close up. My Credit card kinda fell out of my wallet and bingo. I own one. I love the eflite helis.

I have to admit loving this heli even more after my only 3 flights on her. I am limited to one battery at this point. Have to go through my boxes in the basement, I should have more from the Blade S/R. My back yard is 100x60 and I do fly my trex 450 in the yard but the 300 size just fits better. My 130x does well but doesn't have the real heli feel.
I am up for more evaluation on this new Blade. I always say it takes me 25 flights or so to get used to a heli. I will say the tail holds 100%. I do have a vibration noise too. On a close hover I can hear a slightly annoying vibration noise. Blades seem to be in track and there is no bluring on the tail fin. I noticed the canopy is slightly loose so I will fly it around with the canopy off to test. I wanted to remove the blades and spin it up and listen and feel for vibs. I read that someone got good results on balancing the main blades. Mine is bone stock. Kinda want to keep it that way since my income took a dive with the bad economy.

Its been along time since I had to tear into a servo and replace those pesky nylon gears. I realized I am in that position once again. I remember you guys nailing down some upgrade servos for the Cp helis. I guess that will be in the future for me as well.

Another thing, looking back, I had fond memories of posting here on RR and reading others posts on the CP Pro. I was shocked to see only l9 threads on her since the the 300x's release. I thought I should chime in and start a thread or two. Mitchilito, you beat me to it. Yes, perhaps there are less problems with this heli resulting in fewer posts. I for one would love to read more on here dealing with this heli.
that's it for now.
Jojo

JoJo
Foreseeing My Flybarless Future!

02-16-2013 Over year old.
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BJames111

Elite Veteran

Champaign, Il

Glad you guys are having a good time with the 300x. It's kind of my "go to" heli when I don't have a lot of time.

Just a note, they're NOT Eflite helicopters. They're Blade. New brand (well, two, almost three years ago), new designers, new marketing, all new. Eflite is the brand of the motors and most electronics, and the AR7200bx is Spektrum.

02-16-2013 Over year old.
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itsjojo

Key Veteran

North East Pennnsylvania

woops!

I didn't know they wernt eflite any more. Thanks for the info... makes me want to read up on what happened...

JoJo
Foreseeing My Flybarless Future!

02-16-2013 Over year old.
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Mitchilito

Veteran

Morehead City, NC USA

Beast

I've always felt the collective is very sensitive around center when I'm throwing helis around with BeastX. Maybe it's just me, but I did something to the 300 today I've never done before and it just ROCKS!

I simply went in to idle up pitch curve and programmed a little expo around center. OMG - it transformed the heli right around 50% collective stick.

Wonder why it took me so long to figure out

EDIT: Just FYI here's my DX18 stunt pitch numbers: 0,32,50,68,100%

02-17-2013 Over year old.
itsjojo

Key Veteran

North East Pennnsylvania

Up to 6 Whopping flights on my 300x

I am guessing that softened the mid-stick area?
And thanks for that info!

JoJo
Foreseeing My Flybarless Future!

02-17-2013 Over year old.
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Mitchilito

Veteran

Morehead City, NC USA

Exactly. The heli was very sensitive around mid stick. Now it's not. Those numbers give me the perfect feel around center stick.

02-17-2013 Over year old.
itsjojo

Key Veteran

North East Pennnsylvania

Just watched a youtube and saw a video on replacing the tail hub/grips with a trex 450 setup. Guy said since he went to carbons and 100% throttle he felt the stock hub was causing the vibs. Just wondering if anybody had experienced this with their 300x?


I am still running 75% throttle with my woodies. Have to get carbons and head to the field and see if setting the throttle to 100% makes my original tail virbrate.

Since I am waiting for a few more batteries to come in I am limited to 1 battery pack. I want to do some testing but keep flying-out my charged battery since I want to have fun.

JoJo
Foreseeing My Flybarless Future!

02-19-2013 Over year old.
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itsjojo

Key Veteran

North East Pennnsylvania

Another plus to the 300x!
I just assumed the 300x's frame was a variant of the Blade S/R. I figured they just enlarged the boom-mount to accept the larger boom on the 300x. I held my S/r frame up against the 300x and was very impressed. I had broken the S/R frame near the rear several times and the 300x looks a lot sturdier. I guess they knew the 300x would be a much better heli and wanted to up grade the frame too. The S/R had a lower motor mount where the 300x the motor is on top. The frame is thicker, stronger and wider. It seems the width of the frame is to accommodate the AR7200Bx.

Another plus it that this platform I think, is well worth any upgrades you would want to make. I never felt the CP/pros were worth investing too much in.

Now, 15 flights on my 300x. I really impressed and starting to love this heli. It rocks!
Jojo

JoJo
Foreseeing My Flybarless Future!

02-19-2013 Over year old.
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TomC

Key Veteran

Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia

itsjojo, you do not need to wait until you get CF main blades to check your tail out. Just remove the main blades, put the tail blades at ~ neutral pitch, secure it , and run it up going from 0 to 100% throttle. If you notice a vib somewhere in this range (usually, if it's there it's between 30-80%) then you need to dynamically balance your tail rotor (bits of tape, one blade at a time, trial/error, google 'dynamically balancing your tail blades' for more info) until it runs smoothly from 0-100% throttle.

Then put back on you nicely balanced main blades (do balance these btw) and go fly. If you do a great job of chasing/fixing all your 300x vibs, you are pretty safe to run the stock woodies at 100% throttle. The 75% limit takes into account most guys who just want to take it out of the box and go fly imho.

Cheers,
TomC

Nqx,Mcpx-BL,300x,450x,500x,550x
Ion-x, 10s ,SS
TT X50E 10s, HC3-Sx

02-19-2013 Over year old.
itsjojo

Key Veteran

North East Pennnsylvania

Thanks Tom. I just pulled mine out of the box and flew it. Just wanted to see what happened. Now at 18 flights I want to sit down this week end and balance everything.
thanks again.
jojo

JoJo
Foreseeing My Flybarless Future!

02-21-2013 Over year old.
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Mitchilito

Veteran

Morehead City, NC USA

Jojo, You are almost certain to find your tail blades moderately to severely out of balance.

My suggestion: don't fly anymore until checked. It's so easy to fix.

02-22-2013 Over year old.
itsjojo

Key Veteran

North East Pennnsylvania

Thanks Mitch,
My tail blades are now way outta balance. I am missing half of one blade. On my 21st flight coming in for a landing I was standing in a different spot in my yard and came in a little high to my right. I clipped a small branch getting tangled with the fine twigs at the end of the branch. The heli fell about 8' into the snow. When I picked it up I was shocked to seed the main shaft snapped which in turn caused the mast tower to completely break off. the main rotor was hanging by the servo wires! Yikes. I wanted to dig in and rip this thing down and see how it was all put together so I took everything apart that evening. nice little heli but the frame is very thin at the base of the mast tower where the bearings are. I see micro heli made a frame for the S/R version. I think if they make a frame for the 300x then we will all be in business. I can say that in my 21 flights the stock frame has served me well with no issues. It can be a little weak in a crash but perform under normal conditions. I'd say this might not be the best for the newbie to helis. I went ahead and ordered the parts for the repair. I am right around $50 bucks for parts. 1/2 our for dismantling the heli. I'll log the rebuild time to see what a frame change repair takes in terms of labor. I swapped a cracked frame on my Blade S/R and found 2.5 hours was what it cost me in labor. That was a intense 2.5 hours too. I'm guessing around 4 hours for my first frame change to test flight.

I will go ahead and check/test balance on the blades, thanks!
Jojo

JoJo
Foreseeing My Flybarless Future!

02-23-2013 Over year old.
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Mitchilito

Veteran

Morehead City, NC USA

Wow, I'm surprise to hear how weak the frame is. No wonder this little heli is so light!

Well, they say build to fly, not to crash -

02-23-2013 Over year old.
itsjojo

Key Veteran

North East Pennnsylvania

Yea,
I want to make clear that my last post I didn't mean to rant. My overall feelings now after 21 flights and a crash are still 100%! I just posted my "Minus". For other 300x interested people to evaluate.

When I first flew the 130x after the Mcpx. I realized micro helis have hit a new level of stability. Being a CP Pro fan, seeing the arrival of the flybarless 300x, I figured it would be an amazing heli. I held off buying for a while for financial reasons. Now I'm happy I took the plunge making the investment. My personal issues dealing with the economy and family have left me feeling that I want to fly in my yard instead of packing up the car and spending "the day" at the field. I have tried this "fly at home" approach with a couple different helis only to be disappointed. My 450 in the yard is a whole different animal! It is capable but too fast and takes out my siding if I hit the house. 130x is fun and small enough but doesn't have the feel of a real heli (good for training but lacks gratification). With the 300x I could fly aggressively with the sticks yet I'm still able to control it. I'm sure the lower overall mass of the heli with woodies won't take out the siding on my home.
Now there is a "plus" Aggressive yet light enough not to be too much for my 60'x100' yard or cause too much damage.
Yes, I sound picky but this 300x does fit my needs and is not an event to fly. I can get the heli & Tx, take a flight and put the heli away in 6 minutes! That's pretty efficient training.

JoJo
Foreseeing My Flybarless Future!

02-24-2013 Over year old.
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hobby_man

Heliman

MPLS, MN

I flew my 300x right out of the box, no tail issues.
I just got it this week and I have 20 flights on it.
I love this heli. I set up Idle 2 THR 100% all the way across the curve. I used 1000 mah of the 1350 battery in 5 minutes

02-25-2013 Over year old.
Mitchilito

Veteran

Morehead City, NC USA

You would be the first person I've heard of without serious tail blade imbalance.

02-25-2013 Over year old.
Avea8tor

Heliman

Middletown, De

Minuses:

1. Mine came with a mis-drilled main shaft. It broke in flight. Very little damage... I replaced it with an off the shelf main shaft. No further issues.

2. It is not vibration free. The stock motor is not very smooth. Remove the label from the motor and increase the lash between the pinion and the main gear. Consider replacing the beastx mounting pad with 3m double sided tape.

3. The wooden blades require a lower headspeed. They work ok but they don't allow the pilot to fly it to its full potential.

Pluses:

Where do I start?

1. With carbon fiber blades and a ten tooth pinion (from 450x) it screams. At a flat 100% I cannot bog it. I do not have good collective management skills.

2. The beastx is wonderful in the realm of tailoring the flight characteristics to specific needs

3. The servos were hardy enough to survive the main shaft failure induced free fall from 10 feet.

4. The stock motor lasted over 125 very abusive flights then failed gently (lost power gradually). I did not oil it very often so it probably could have lasted much longer. I replaced it with the stock motor.

5. The tail servo lasted over 150 flights. It failed on the ground during spool up

6. It is cheap to repair.

7. It handles moderate winds quite well.

8. Bang for the buck... this little guy rocks

04-04-2013 Over year old.
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