I see it all the time

Pro pilots taking up a flight station for the day and going around and around with many people standing besides them watching. Even photographers sitting on the ground immobile which I think is crazy especially when those guys are tick tocking towards and away from themselves like 5 feet off the deck and 10 feet out. Then you got the hurricanes at 60mph in the old days they used to pass so close we talked about the pilot lifting the TX up during the pass to prevent the antenna from being hit. There was a guy doing this at MHA years back and I told him its crazy what if something failed and he replied "oh I totally trust myself". The irony of the matter is that later that day while doing this hurrincane maneuver the helicopter crashed into the ground while on the outbound pass and pieces went flying everywhere. I stopped by his tent later to ask what happened and he said the switch let go. He was lucky the heli was not inbound at that moment. I think he got the message that day.

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RC helis safety has not changed since the old days, its just the type of flying is more daring. To say that a wood blade 60 size is less dangerous hovering 10 feet away than someone doing tic tocs 10 feet away is off base. In fact, I would say that helis of today are even more safe than old day helis because of the advances in electronics, blades and more.

I have seen a helicopter have a failure in a hover and just shoot off to one side in an instant, not to mention a RR member has been killed by a wood bladed helicopter that was just hovering. If you want to be safe from all the dangers a rc helicopter poses, then simpy stay as far away from them as you are comfortable, I say let others enjoy the hobby and take the risk assesment for themselves at fun flys.

It doesn't take a genious to understand how much energy is harnessed by these machines, so if I see someone flying close doing advanced flying I assume they have more than just 2 brains cells to rub together and know the risk they are taking. Just my .2 cents. I know I'm not going to change any minds nor is this the intent of my post. Take Care.

I get your point Rappy...Completely.

BUT...I see the pros hit the tail and main blades on the ground or pavement several times in one flight and keep flying KNOWING something is probably broken to some extent.

Then come straight in at 85 mph to do a Wall Stop aimed at the pits.

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I think we hit the common denominator, ATTITUDE. In this thread we have seen people write:

"well, when you go to the flying field you assume risk"

"Helicopter flying is risky anyhow so...."

bending rules for visiting pilots

guys who trust themselves and completely discount the possibility of mechanical failure, etc.

It's going to happen as long as we keep pushing the limits and the longer we get away with it, the worse the "big one" is going to be when it does happen. imagine a 120 powered 700 on a governor coming at the flightline bringing those carbon knives at 2000rpm with it. You planning on puting your hands out to stop it? It might be a local club hotshot flying beyond his limits, it could be a big name "pro" who finally pushes it too far. It could be the sport pilot next to you that never checks his gear.

at OHB last year we had an 8ft barrier fence, this year there will be a 12ft safety net across the "center stage"

If you're not flying a gasoline helicopter
You're paying 10 times too much for fuel!!

Are you telling me that you or anyone going to a field is NOT taking a risk? And that this is my attitude? Anyone who flies, be it airplane or helicopter knows that when they go to a field there is a risk. There is no attitude issue there and if you are ignoring this then YOU are the risk. Sure we have rules, I'm even the president of a club and try to make things as "safe" as possible, but going to the field on any given day YOU ARE taking a risk and so is anyone else that goes there.

Just sit right back and I'll tell a tale, a tale of a fateful trip that started from this ...

Sure would like to hear some responses from some of the pro pilots, Or do they know its just a matter of time and hope they are not the one?

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Put a screen up a yard behind the flight line about 20 ft high, golfing net might be good, and let anyone park up right behind it while heli 3d master scare's the shyt out of everyone, if they want to be close to the action.

Ya know, a ball link came out during a little flight of mine yesterday and heli took on a trajectory toward what may have been an observing audience. It isn't the other heli flyers that might be victim but the unsuspecting spectator who may not be able to move faster than a tater, you know what I mean.

Be PROACTIVE, you wouldn't continue to play golf before, during, or immediately after a thunderstorm would you?

Wise man once said, you shouldn't play with fire or your fingers might get burned. People have and yes they do, shame shame.

Sure there is risk but why multiply it?

I'm going to die someday for sure...I don't go out and risk my life on stupid crap just because death is inevitable.

Keep the risk minimal....There are children at these fun flies that do not know the risk and are actually there against their will...Mom and Dad drag them there....Not everyone there is accepting the risk or even understands it.

Big knife edge hurricanes 10 feet from the flyers is not necessary to have a good time.

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PJRono
Are you telling me that you or anyone going to a field is NOT taking a risk? And that this is my attitude? Anyone who flies, be it airplane or helicopter knows that when they go to a field there is a risk. There is no attitude issue there and if you are ignoring this then YOU are the risk. Sure we have rules, I'm even the president of a club and try to make things as "safe" as possible, but going to the field on any given day YOU ARE taking a risk and so is anyone else that goes there

+1 and anyone with common sense knows this so not sure why this is even talked about..If you're scared,LEAVE and don't ever go back again.Noone makes anyone go to funflys,thats "your choice" so maybe use that choice and don't go.Thousands of pilots enjoy stuff like this and they know the risk..
I feel safer standing next to Pro pilots which I have many times vs someone new to the hobby..

It's not the guy standing next to the pro that's in danger.

It's the ones with their back to the flight line or watching a different heli that will get blind sided if a part breaks.

They don't need to fly that close to spectators.Period.
If they do fly that close,there should never be more than one in the air so everyone knows where the risk is.

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Tic....Tic......Tic.....Tic!

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McKrackin
It's not the guy standing next to the pro that's in danger.

It's the ones with their back to the flight line or watching a different heli that will get blind sided if a part breaks.

They don't need to fly that close to spectators.Period.
If they do fly that close,there should never be more than one in the air so everyone knows where the risk is.

Being as your talking about something you NEVER been too,the flight stations at every funfly ive been too is quite a ways from spectators.Its the same way at a few clubs I went to,no different..

Oh,since you've been to all the fields and events...I'll take your word for it.lol...

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By the way...Who was the pro at the HF fun fly that autographed the blade that flew into the crowd and cut a spectator?

That was cool of him.

There are two types of people in the world..#1.People who can extrapolate iinformation from context

Of course the flight lines should be a good distance from the pit areas and spectators. However, pilots should be allowed to fly as they wish provided they are not flying behind the flight line or over peoples heads. If a pilot wants to fly very fly close to himself, he should be allowed to; so long as he is putting nobody in immediate danger other than himself.

Anybody wishing to stand next to pilot during a flight is out there at there own risk.

If you want to limit threats to spectators by increasing distances between them and pilots; and putting up fences, netting or other barriers, I'm with you.

If you want to limit how aggressive a pilot can be while flying by himself on the flight line, I part ways with you.

Still having that reading problem?I said every flyfly ive been too,never said I went to every funfly on the planet ..

+1 Rob...

Anybody wishing to stand next to pilot during a flight is out there at there own risk.

If you want to limit threats to spectators by increasing distances between them and pilots; and putting up fences, netting or other barriers, I'm with you.

If you want to limit how aggressive a pilot can be while flying by himself on the flight line, I part ways with you.

That's exactly what I said if anyone cares to read and try to understand.

I said it wouldn't take much....Just bump the flight line out some or move the crowd back.

Minimize the risk to bystanders...The flyers are on their own.

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Still having that reading problem?I said every flyfly ive been too,never said I went to every funfly on the planet

I'm having reading problems?

I doubt you even speak English sometimes.

I was being sarcastic....You have no idea what I'm even talking about even though I spelled it out.

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