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Dood

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Wescanson

It's against paypal policy to ask a buyer to pay fees, but still, it seems more than half the people on RunRyder don't understand that.

How about making it RunRyder's policy that sellers are not allowed to ask buyers to pay the fees?

Why is this important? Because of recent trends and "copy cats". It has gotten completely out of hand in recent years.

"Make it RR's policy that all people using RR Classifieds and also requesting PP as payment, users must abide by PP's policy."


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12-31-2011 Over year old.
wrongler

rrProfessor

Brewerton, New York

I don't really think that will make a difference, they would probably negotiate in their PM,s. Just say'n.

" RIP Roman "

12-31-2011 Over year old.
Ace Dude

rrProfessor

USA

It's against paypal policy to ask a buyer to pay fees
I was not aware of that, thanks for the heads-up. I've never asked for PayPal fees. To me, it's part of the cost of doing business. One should figure it into the price of the item, not accept PayPal, or offer a discount for not using PayPal (e.g., USPS money order).



12-31-2011 Over year old.
Dood

rrProfessor

Wescanson

Also make it against RR policy to request buyers "send payment as a gift"


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jadams

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Broome County NY, USA

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Dood

rrProfessor

Wescanson

This is paypals policy.
Make it RR's policy that all people using RR Classifieds and also requesting PP as payment, users must abide by PP's policy.

Here is the link if you want to read the whole thing
https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/m...&locale.x=en_US

Also read part 4.6
4.6 No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method. You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions.


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jadams

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Broome County NY, USA

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Dood

rrProfessor

Wescanson

do you have a link to paypal not a screen shot
The link is there. Look again.
why you are so intent on enforcing paypal policy.
It's for me. I refuse to buy from people who ask for fees, and sometimes I want what they're selling.
I have integrity and play by the rules.

Also, probably 80% of the people who ask the buyer to pay paypal fees don't even know what the fees are!!
I see people asking 3%, 3.5%, 4.5%, and 5%. Not a single one of those are actually what PP charges.


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Tyler

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Chicagoland area

"It is better to worry about the telephone pole poking out of your own eye before you point out the tiny splinter in someone else's eye..."

(paraphrased for modern times)

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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wrongler

rrProfessor

Brewerton, New York

Sooooooo...... What is the PP fee?

" RIP Roman "

12-31-2011 Over year old.
Dood

rrProfessor

Wescanson

$0.30 +2.9% for all transactions below $3000.00

What does that mean?

To send someone a dollar, it means they will receive $.68
To send someone $10, they will receive $9.41
To send someone $25, they will receive $23.98
$50= $48.25
$100= $96.80
$250= $242.55


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Tyler

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Chicagoland area

I have integrity and play by the rules.
I will sell you anything that I place in the sales forums without paypal fees if you simply comply to my requests to send a U.S. Postal Money Order. Agreed? I promise I won't ask for paypal fees from you again.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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jadams

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Broome County NY, USA

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Dood

rrProfessor

Wescanson

I posted some examples up to $250 to show you how little PP fees actually are.

You'd rather break your PP user agreement and have your account terminated than pay the $7 from a large transaction?


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Tyler

Elite Veteran

Chicagoland area

You forgot some important fees...

Additional fees for cross border payments and currency conversion.

A cross border fee of 1.0% applies to payments received from senders in another country.

Payments requiring a currency conversion include a 2.5% fee.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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Tyler

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Chicagoland area

So, D00d, will you buy with a postal money order if I have something you want? Screw paypal, lets help our postal service stay in business. That would be ethical, legal, and following all the rules and helping keep Americans in business and paying their mortgages and college tuitions.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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wrongler

rrProfessor

Brewerton, New York

How about if someone spent, lets say over $10,000 in several transaction, I would not call that a small fee!

" RIP Roman "

12-31-2011 Over year old.
Tyler

Elite Veteran

Chicagoland area

Dood, you don't seem to realize many of the aspects of using paypal and accumulating fees.

I can send money to someone I trust, someone I know with no fees at all. I simply have to use money already in my paypal account balance. No outside transaction and fees are charged to paypal by banking facilities. The deal is in house and FREE.

However, when someone doesn't know ME or doesn't trust ME, they can charge it to a credit card and receive secondary purchase protection if the deal goes bad.

OR

A buyer can use paypal and transfer money from an outside source because they don't TRUST paypal to hold their money in the paypal account. Again, an insecure buyer must pay for their insecurities. Paypal cannot make any interest off of money they keep in their account, so they charge the customer a fee to make up for the interest they were not allowed to earn.

I have spectacular feedback, I have been on this site for over 10 years, I have performed hundreds of successful transactions as buyer and seller.

Why would someone use their credit card to purchase my goods?

Simple:

1. They can't really afford what I offer so they have to charge it to their credit card. SHAME! Debt is bad.

2. They want extra protection.

3. They are too lazy to walk to their post office for a money order.

4. They are too cheap to pay the post office THEIR fee for the postal money order.

Tyler

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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AltecLansing

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North Carolina

I disagree about trying to make it runryder's policy. Mark holds not responsibility in the transactions on here. He does not wish to be liable and trying to make it a runryder policy will put him in a position to enforce the policy making him liable for transactions. He does not settle sale disputes nor does he collect a fee from someone selling their items. He does sell advertising space which does not make him responsible for a sale that does not go your way.


How about this. If you don't wish to pay the fee, just say so. I've asked for gift as payment before. Some send as gift, some say they don't feel comfortable doing it. I've not once gotten mad at someone for saying they don't want to pay by gift. All posts for selling stuff are offers to sell items at a given price and terms. You can always negotiate price and terms. If you don't like what is negotiated, don't buy it. Not everything in life will be your way.

Man, I miss the eighties.

12-31-2011 Over year old.
GyroFreak

rrProfessor

Orlando Florida ...

and I am not going to get beat up on shipping and fees.
So state that fees and shipping are included in the price. When I sell that is the way it is stated. Only if it is large and shipping cost is determined by distance, then I state shipping is extra, but never PayPal/Ebay fees.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

12-31-2011 Over year old.
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