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600n to 600e conversion

nhas924

Heliman

ct

I read somewhere that the Chaos 600e's frame is the same width as the Trex 600n. I'm wondering if the Chaos's motor mount will fit in the Trex 600n's frame w/o spacing modification.
Can anyone verify this?

10-29-2011 Over year old.
spoolemup

Senior Heliman

NJ - USA

I converted my 600N to 600E using the Turnigy T600 880KV Brushless with a Phonix 100A. I kept the entire heli in tact, other than the engine, clutch, fuel tank, and remote glow unit.

I used 880KV because I wanted to run it on 8S. 2 4S in series.

The conversion wasn't too difficult. I had to mod a 600E motor mount with two shims of aluminum to make up the difference in the frames' width.

The most time consuming task was aligning the motor to the main gear, before I drilled the two needed holes in the frames for the motor mount. (There are already two in there from the clutch assembly). I had to take at least 20 pictures and zoom in on them to see if the pinion tooth was parallel to the main gears teeth. Once I got it lined up, I made my marks in the frame, holding the correct distance using a digital caliper to score the line. You can see the score line in some of the photos.

I did keep the Engine mount on the bottom to help hold the side frames square under load. Because of the length of the motor, I had to grind down some of the top of the engine mounts.

All the guys in my club were very impressed at the conversion and amazed at the raw power this 600E conversion now has.

Running two 4S 3600 30C Turnigy packs, I normally bang it around for about 6 minutes then bring it in. Motor runs cool, around 100 degrees, barely warm to the touch.. Batteries and ESC about the same.

Watch at YouTube

01-14-2012 Over year old.
kiksko

Senior Heliman

San Lorenzo, CA

thanks for idea, have a 600n frame laying around and motor mount.

how much the motor?

01-14-2012 Over year old.
spoolemup

Senior Heliman

NJ - USA

$60 @ Hobby King

01-14-2012 Over year old.
nhas924

Heliman

ct

Hey guys, I never followed up on this post but I did do the conversion. The chaos line of helicopters uses frames same width as the 600n to allow a scorpion motor w/o mod to the frame. No spacers were needed using their motor mount. https://www.scaleflying.com/Motor-Mount-_p_1681.html. I too am using 8s,Scorpion 4025-890. I used 2 holes already there for the front mounting holes then drilled the other 2. Get some extra frame mounting bolts, https://www.scaleflying.com/Motor-Mount-_p_1681.html, to strengthen the frame around where the engine was. Make sure you get the 54mm ones. I had to move the rear mounting bolt/ boom supports up to make room for the rear battery. I also made a battery mount for the battery out of some light modeling plywood I had hanging around from my plank days. I found some nylon stand-offs @ the hardware store I cut down to 9/16" to clear the frame mounting blocks , drilled 4 holes thru the plywood and bottom plate, stuck on the hook n loop, done. The front battery is secured to the receiver mount with the bec and esc. She's ever-so-slightly nose heavy. With the clutch block removed you can easily set the gear mesh. I'm using 2 4s nano tech 4.5"s in series. Gives me 8 min of scale-type flying.

01-14-2012 Over year old.
Heli143

Elite Veteran

Phenix City, AL

clean conversion.

I bought a Chaos 600 nitro to convert to electric but I am going to use the clutch system on it.
It will go inside a 700 size Marvelcraft Bell 407 fuselage once done.
Fuse is at Northwest Scaleworks for a new scale landing gear right now. Can't wait to get started on it!

Roy Mayoral

02-15-2012 Over year old.
RaptorRob

Senior Heliman

hamlin P.A.

anyone doing this with a 12 s system?

want to use same batts as my t 500 (6s 40c 2650's-3000's)

I have a spare nitro laying around and just put that chaos motor mount on order... this wound be a super cheap way of me getting into a 600 size electric

no babe i swear i sold my other heli to buy this one :)

03-29-2012 Over year old.
Heli143

Elite Veteran

Phenix City, AL

Raptor bob
Is there a reason why you are wanting to jump to 12s?

Roy Mayoral

04-20-2012 Over year old.
RaptorRob

Senior Heliman

hamlin P.A.

Yes for one reason i wanted to use the same batts as my 500 and now that i built the conversion and just test flew it i only get 3min 30 sec of hard flying (2600mah) everything comes down cool to the touch... it is amazing

I enjoyed building this and i probably wont keep it forever but it is fun to fly and all the power it has i only like to fly it for that long its plenty for me .... its not for everyone

no babe i swear i sold my other heli to buy this one :)

04-22-2012 Over year old.
spoolemup

Senior Heliman

NJ - USA

600N to 600E conversion

I think there were 2 reasons for doing this.
1) I already had the 600N which was an OK machine if you did not have any problems with the engine. (Which I have had too many)
2) I liked the way my stock 600E flew and wondered how much better would it fly on 8S and, without touching my stock 600E.

SO, without spending extra money on another helicopter, and my Nito bird just sitting there, I figured, why not give it a shot.
So glad I did.. The raw power that my conversion now has, made my same 600N, look like a Radio Shack toy.

04-22-2012 Over year old.
RaptorRob

Senior Heliman

hamlin P.A.

took a couple more flights on the 12s it is a beast!! and a plus i made a mistake on my initial flight times ... im new to electric so dont think this is silly , i charge in parallel and i thought i was putting in 1800 - 2000 mah into each battery but that is divided into the two so i have around 6 min of throwing it around and around 5 min of pushing it hard, and all on 2650mah 40c's

no babe i swear i sold my other heli to buy this one :)

04-23-2012 Over year old.
RaptorRob

Senior Heliman

hamlin P.A.

this is during the build the zippy 2650's fit perfect between the frames and i got it to balance nice

no babe i swear i sold my other heli to buy this one :)

04-23-2012 Over year old.
Heli143

Elite Veteran

Phenix City, AL

Raptorbob, glad to hear it turned out as you wanted with 12S.

I fly my two raptor conversion on 6S. The MD500 with five bladed head flies fine with the 6S but the second conversion with two blade head is lacking in power. It flies around smooth and fast but in a hover it is around 3/4 to full stick.
I think it has to do with the Kv of the motors.
Turns out the MD500 has a 565Kv motor while the other raptor has an unknown Kv motor. I believe it is an 800Kv motor so I ordered two 4S batts and will go to 8S. I think that will fix the problem.
I guess I will find out soon enough

Roy Mayoral

04-23-2012 Over year old.
DALEPABAJO69

Senior Heliman

osceola,CM,SL

found this.

its a little more expensive but looks and should performe a whole lot better.

http://customheliparts.com/store/in...&product_id=397

700E,T-REX 500 fbl,600 fbl,600E fbl,700 fbl Srimok 90 cyberhead

08-07-2012 Over year old.
jsenicka

rrProfessor

Hampton VA

Flying two 700EDL right now, and plan to pick up a 600EDL as soon as they are available.
CHP makes some awesome airframes.

Jim Senicka
Team Manager, GrandRC Flight Team

08-13-2012 Over year old.
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