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HHO Gas Has anyone here tried it?

Rodney

Veteran

St.Cloud,Florida

Has anyone tried the HHO Gas on anything? If so how did it work for you?

Dx7 With Ion Power Supply. Why use anything else.

10-01-2011 Over year old.
wrongler

rrProfessor

Brewerton, New York

I made a system and put it on a diesel and didnt really notice any difference, maybe if you buy a real good system you may notice an increase. Just be very careful with it. Anything will ignite it!

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10-01-2011 Over year old.
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

"Free" energy, isn't.

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10-02-2011 Over year old.
steve 01

Elite Veteran

Grand Rapids MI

Yes I gained 4 miles per gallon with a small system and another guy I work with has gained 15 MPG on an old ford ranger.

There are already cars out there running on 100 percent hydrogen with great results(they are running a fuel cell with compressed hydrogen,that to me is not a good idea, remember the Hindenburg?)

The theory behind HHO is an on demand system and aids the fuel burning in the engine with todays computers controlling the fuel system it is very difficult to see results unless you run and O2 sensor module to offset the O2 reading. There is a lot on the web about this subject.

10-02-2011 Over year old.
SuperSixTwo

Veteran

Virginia City, NV ---USA

I have built a couple of systems i found on the net. One worked good for producing gas, the others not so much. My quest at the time was not if it worked for mileage, but what was the drawbacks. I really wanted to know what the loss was due to the high current draw from the alternator. There has to be some "power curve" where the benefits of having an extra fuel mix, vs the drag on the engine to produce the gas.
Our test vehicle was an 90's ford f150 with a straight 6. Running a chemical mix in the water jars, the testing showed a gain of 4 mpg. Alt draw was 60 amps. We tried several things to increase the draw, even adding a second system. Nothing really worked beyond that. No more gains in mpg, even though we had lots of hho gas.
This really isnt "free energy." It is just a gas fuel produced via electric current. Mpg "gains" come from using less gasoline, and more browns gas.
We found it to be terribly corrosive to the manifold to. Also, the chemical we put in the water wasn't the easiest to come by, but made the most gas.
Smack booster was the one we built.

10-02-2011 Over year old.
Rodney

Veteran

St.Cloud,Florida

Bought a small kit that is a hybrid cell. Not wet but not dry. But couldn't get it to fit under the hood of the Saturn. So I plan on installing it on my rv. 5.9L cummins. It a older 12 valve motor. Manual pump with no electronics. Just curious to see what it will do. Very interesting that it would cause corrosion in the manifold.

Dx7 With Ion Power Supply. Why use anything else.

10-02-2011 Over year old.
AirWolfRC

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42½ N, 83½ W

Haven't looked at too hard but it looks like just a different means of energy conversion. Use electricity to disassociate H2O and get that energy back by recombining it in combustion. If you're trying to make things hot, sure, but if you're only trying to make someting move, why not just use the electricity in an electric motor ? Same idea as a diesel/electric locomotive, large earth mover and the Oshkosh LCTV. Any input ?

Keep in mind that most internal combustion engines are only about 30% efficient in recovering the energy in fuel and any additional conversion processes also have conversion efficiencies that subtract from the overall. If they subtract less than the main engine then you have a net gain.

10-02-2011 Over year old.
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Justin Stuart

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Plano, Texas

I thought HHO was a scam?

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10-02-2011 Over year old.
Blax1

Senior Heliman

Sydney Australia

10-02-2011 Over year old.
daggit

Elite Veteran

Claremont, MN

Doesn't work in modern computer controlled power plants straight up. Adding HHO to the system causes the computer to detect a lean condition, so it dumps more fuel in to compensate, cancelling most gains you might get. I don't know of any good computer overriding systems for the HHO setup.

10-02-2011 Over year old.
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RayJayJohnsonJr

Key Veteran

Midwest

It's a computer. Can't it be....... programmed????

There, their and they're. It's really that simple.

10-03-2011 Over year old.
Rodney

Veteran

St.Cloud,Florida

Well my diesel has no computer controls at all. So will let you know what if any gains in mileage and power I get.

Dx7 With Ion Power Supply. Why use anything else.

10-03-2011 Over year old.
Dr. Fibinotchi

Key Veteran

Sioux Falls SD

hmm

There is a guy in town that was in it pretty heavy I would talk with every once in a while. Its correct its not free energy. There was a forum a while back I was watching. Couple diffrent modified designs from the original design of Stan Myers.

A couple guys where using an O scope to optimize the circuit and the lead plates they where using to get the most out of to raise the blended brown gas.

I guess one of the guys on the forum had clamied to got his circuit dialed in with the O scope and and had used a bubbler I think its what he called it and mixed a very small amount of water with the brown gas to control the backfire. Remember mythmusters did it and major back fire? He adjusted the mixture of leanness to the cylinder to compensate for the brown gas. I forget the voltage he set something to.

Its been a couple years since I was on the forum. Pretty cool stuff though.


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10-03-2011 Over year old.
SSN Pru

Elite Veteran

Taxachusetts

Lots of junk science and complete non-sense in this thread.
(they are running a fuel cell with compressed hydrogen,that to me is not a good idea, remember the Hindenburg?)
The Hindenburg didn't use compressed hydrogen. Also, a fuel cell is completely and fundamentally different from this HHO BS.

Ponder this for a moment. Car manufacturers are currently under ENORMOUS pressure to get their Fleet MPG averages to a Governemnt defined point. They are struggling which is driving many of them to develop plug-in electrics and hybrid vehicles to off-set the LOW MPG trucks and SUV's. Don't you think that the automotive industry would do ANYTHING to increase their MPG? Several car makers are doing things like CVT's 7-speed automatic transmissions, etc to boost and optimize MPG. If HHO were viable and actually made sense then car companies would be doing it and entreprenuer's everywhere would be raining money down on this concept in an effort to retrofit EVERY vehicle on the road. Those two things aren't happening for a very good reason and it's already been mentioned.

Free energy isn't free.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

10-03-2011 Over year old.
SuperSixTwo

Veteran

Virginia City, NV ---USA

Again, only my experience, this isnt a free energy. Mpg gains in my test rig were seen only because we used less gasoline. Would be no different that using a bottle of some other fuel and injecting it into the airstream.
The "free" part comes from the process and the so called free water.
BTW, plain water didnt do a thing.

10-03-2011 Over year old.
Rodney

Veteran

St.Cloud,Florida

Well its not free energy as nothing is free. But if it will boost the mileage even by 10 to 15 percent at a cost of 25 cents per gallon then I think it will be worth the investment. And yes car manufactures are using hydrogen gas to run cars and yes it does work.

Dx7 With Ion Power Supply. Why use anything else.

10-04-2011 Over year old.
SSN Pru

Elite Veteran

Taxachusetts

And yes car manufactures are using hydrogen gas to run cars and yes it does work.
You have a fundamental lack of knowledge on the technology being used in cars right now.

Let me help (against my better judgement)

Car manufacturers ARE NOT using this BUNK HHO stuff. They are starting to roll out electric vehicles powered with fuel cells. The fuel cells extract their electricity from the combination of hydrogen with oxygen.

This BUNK HHO stuff claims to increase your fuel mileage by taking electricity from your alternator (which is powered by the engine) and then splitting water molecules (or other hydrogen containing molecules) and then injecting that hydrogen and oxygen into the engine for increased mileage. The MINISCULE amount of gas generated (if anything useful is even generated) CAN'T do a thing for your mileage.

This technology is JUNK SCIENCE from the start and I can guarantee people claiming increased mileage have not done ANY sound testing grounded in the scientific method.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

10-04-2011 Over year old.
CACTUSJACK (passed)

Senior Heliman

State of Confusion

Sounds like a Mythbusters episode in the making.

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10-04-2011 Over year old.
Pistol_Pete

rrProfessor

Seffner, FL

http://www.popularmechanics.com/car...mileage/4276846

Last two paragraphs sums this up...or not.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

10-04-2011 Over year old.
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MPA

Elite Veteran

Australia

This technology is JUNK SCIENCE from the start and I can guarantee people claiming increased mileage have not done ANY sound testing grounded in the scientific method.
Yes it is JUNK SCIENCE
Sold by Snake Oil salesmen.
As a qualified motor mechanic for over 20 years I know it.

10-05-2011 Over year old.
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