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Scorpion 4035 560kv

jans

Senior Heliman

Las Vegas

Hello,

Is a Scorpion 4035 560kv too much for a 12s E Aurora?

Thanks,
Jans

03-30-2011 Over year old.
Ronald Thomas

rrMaster

Gainesville, Fl, USA

Nope, I had an Xera 4035-560 in mine and a Jive 120+HV

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03-30-2011 Over year old.
Kanglou

Senior Heliman

Sweden

I think the 4035-500 kW motor is more a 12s motor.And 560 kW is 10s motor.But it seams to work any way.

03-30-2011 Over year old.
Jag72

rrProfessor

South of Boston

4035--

Between the 2 the 560kv makes more power on 12s ..

I used to run a few 500kv's..then switched them to 560's..

I think the best compromise for a 12s 90 machine is the 4035/530kv though...that's what I am trying in my newest trex 700E.

haven't flown it yet..but i'm sure it's a powerhouse

03-30-2011 Over year old.
bob00

Veteran

Toronto, ON

4035 + 10T gearing + CC ICE 120 @ approx. 2050 - 2100 ESC governed w/ 14deg pitch...

The 560 makes a lot of power but is a bit outside the optimal range of the ESC if governed, sometimes resulted in odd vibrations - frame stiffeners may have fixed this. If you fly hard and keep the motor loaded you may like it - some guys fly this motor with amazing results.

The 530 is very powerful and runs smooth - in the sweet-spot for the ESC. Significantly better in this RPM range than the 500 - this was a sweet combo.
(the old HK series 530 was 'coggy' when turned by hand, almost like something's wrong with it but that's just the way they were - very smooth running motor).

The 500 was ok, but not much headroom for really good GOV operation will prob work much better with an 11T pinion - don't know for sure, haven't tried the new pinion yet.

- Rob

03-30-2011 Over year old.
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Kanglou

Senior Heliman

Sweden

I run 500kw whit jive 80hv and i have set My trottel curv straight at 82% and get 2000 in Hs whit 10t pinion.Thats perfect headroom for the jive and i can get up a littel more if i wan't more Hs.

So maby it depends witch esc you got and hs you want witch motor you should select or???

Daniel.

03-30-2011 Over year old.
jans

Senior Heliman

Las Vegas

What range of govern thottle % does the CC ESC likes to run?

03-30-2011 Over year old.
Ronald Thomas

rrMaster

Gainesville, Fl, USA

The 560 makes lot of power but is a bit outside the optimal range of the ESC if governed, sometimes resulted in odd vibrations - frame stiffeners may have fixed this.
Yeah a Jive can handle the lower % well. Castle......well......

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03-30-2011 Over year old.
Chris Bergen

Elite Veteran

cassopolis, MI USA

Interesting you guys would mention this (Bob00 and Jag). I just flew a customers bird with the Scorpion 4035-530 and I was VERY impressed.

Also setup with a jive 120, at 80% throttle, HS at 2100. 12 degrees of pitch and even I couldn't bog the darn thing!! (poor collective management skills... )

Chris D. Bergen

03-30-2011 Over year old.
reverend_john

Senior Heliman

Cordova, TN

Jansen can't wait to see how you like the avant aurora e.

if I am not flying heli I am playing Golf

03-30-2011 Over year old.
remotemadness

Senior Heliman

singapore

Hi,

I'm in the process of picking a Motor and esc for the Aurora E..

So it seems the new HKIII 4035-530 should be the choice?

What would be a mid budget ESC to go with this to get a decent HS for the Aurora E..

I'm not a hard core 3D person.. but would like a machine that could do a decent 3D for me to progress to..

Cheers
Q

03-31-2011 Over year old.
yannick

Senior Heliman

South Korea

i have just changed my 500 for a 560 Kv.

I have been flying my E aurora for a while with the scorpion 4035 500 (as recomended). the power was there but I was not very happy as it was pretty limited in revs (2000 max). I wanted 2050 with some head room. I changed for a 4035 560. The difference in unbelievable, much more power and revs consistency. the efficency is still very good as i put back only about 2600 mah after 5.30 min flights in the 12s 5100 voltz at the first flights, I put my timer to 6.30 min and put back about 3400 mah.

If you hesitate between the 500 and 560 Kv, I advise to go for the 560.

I ame using CC ICE 120..

Is it me or this time the ground was higher than last time??

03-31-2011 Over year old.
remotemadness

Senior Heliman

singapore

hi,

what about the Kontronik PYRO 700-52 motor..

How's this compare to the 560

03-31-2011 Over year old.
remotemadness

Senior Heliman

singapore

sorry,

I just realise there is no pinion for the correct HS..

03-31-2011 Over year old.
reverend_john

Senior Heliman

Cordova, TN

I use a 4035 630 motor with a 12s system. I know is not what people would do but I fly it at 2050rpm with a 85% on ecu. The heli has power on my crazy tic toc and I flown the heli about 20 time with no problem at all.

if I am not flying heli I am playing Golf

03-31-2011 Over year old.
MrNiceGuy

Veteran

Melbourne, FL

I run A Pyro 700-45 in my T-rex 700E conversion and it has a more power than the 4035-560 that it replaced. Not a ton more but it is noticeable. It also seems to be more efficient. I don't know about the 520 though.

Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery, Today is a GIFT

03-31-2011 Over year old.
Jason Bell

Elite Veteran

California

I have ran both the 4035-560kv and the 4525-520 LE with a Ice HV80.

With my flying style the 4525-520 LE is getting slightly longer flight times than the 560kv was. I am putting in roughly 36-3800 mah into 5000mah packs after a hard 4 minute flight. I am peaking 7000w at 160-170A through the Ice 80HV.

If you are flying in a warm climate during summer, I would recommend picking up the 120HV over the 80 to allow some headroom temperature wise.

The optimal motor seems to be the 4035-530kv V3. Although the new 11T pinions that just got released should work extremely well with the 500kv motor.

Jason

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03-31-2011 Over year old.
jans

Senior Heliman

Las Vegas

How about a 450kv with a 12t pinion?

Jans

03-31-2011 Over year old.
Jason Bell

Elite Veteran

California

450-470kv should work well with a 12T pinion, which is also available here.

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03-31-2011 Over year old.
remotemadness

Senior Heliman

singapore

Will the stock pinion work with the HK-4035-560 or should I get another pinion that works better..
Does anybody know if this motor have any V1 or V2 model? If so how do I know which is the latest model..
I can't remember reading somewhere about the shaft being short or something and to get the longer shaft???

I tried contacting my local scorpion supplier for the new HKIII-4035-530.. But was told that it takes ages for scorpion to respond.. can take up to 3 months before you get your motor????...any place to recommend that I don't have to wait 3 months...
I would presume this motor works best with the stock pinion

Thanks
Quest

04-01-2011 Over year old.
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