KDS Innova 550 just released on the China market.
The price is acceptable.
included 3 CCPM servo 1 tail servo 120A ECS 8A BEC 1200KV motor

E-Bar or KDS 900 Gyro

Link to purchase? I want to look at this closer.

the following link is chinese

http://search.taobao.com/search?q=K...d=s5-e&search=y

I have no idea if that is wholesale, or retail, but according to my converter, the FBL with everything is only $626.

Nick Crego
Identity crisis

It is retail price

the innova 700 took 4th place at 3D Masters

- Dan Goldstein
- Team HobbyHut -

I wonder when these are going to be widely available. I can't find any place to order.

Nick Crego
Identity crisis

Try here http://www.rcwarez.com/rc-helicopte...f8f954cd59ffaa6

they will be demoed at IRCHA

- Dan Goldstein
- Team HobbyHut -

Align 700e combo is cheaper and better electronics

..and how are the electronics "better" exactly?

have you used or flown one of these KDS models and their electronics?

- Dan Goldstein
- Team HobbyHut -

They are known brand instead of some brand that no one really heard of or can even buy let alone resell for any reasonable value

So the name makes them better. Interesting. I don't think I've ever heard someone say that Align electronics are better than something else before.

Nick Crego
Identity crisis

well, whatever the name, one of their (KDS Innova 700e) models allowed a young Korean pilot to take 4-th place at the recent 3D Masters.

- Dan Goldstein
- Team HobbyHut -

Align servos are rebranded savox, the esc is CC.

The point is imagine buying it and selling it, or trying to get parts for it, who says they don't disapear off the face of the planet and no parts for it?

KDS has actually been in business for quite a few years

- Dan Goldstein
- Team HobbyHut -

I am aware of that.

Aside from KDS flymentor and toolbox i have never come across their products in years. The fact that they price it like a 700E combo kit the choice for me is obvious, you guys can test it out.

Glad to see it maybe mikado will become more affordable

This is Justin Jee's first video of the year. We have been pretty dormant and now getting out of hibernation. Justin is focusing on electric helis this year. This seems to run in cycles.

The test subject is KDS Innova 700e FBL helicopter. The frame resembles Mikado Logo series with various other adaptations. It is a belt driven heil. The heli equipment is shown in the title page.

We've had two failed maiden flights prior to this. Metal end on the CF tail pushrod snapped on first try and high head speed vibe caused the Ebar to do the death roll on 2nd attempt. So, we've decided to keep the head speed at 2150 (idle up1) for now to get a feel for the Ebar and the heli.

At this head speed, you can easily get 7min flight time with 2x 6s5000 packs or 6 with 4000-4500 packs. It shares many components with 600e heli. The tail boom support is not strong enough to handle the 700 class heli without buckling. With minor improvements, this will be one capable 3d machine.

Watch at YouTube

BTW, Castle Creamation ICE 160HV v2(I think) is holding up so far.

www.JustinJee.com

In Germany we get the innovas just next week. http://www.helifan.de/GL-KDS-550-600-700:::116.html
Are in your countries the FBL-electronics available? In Germany there is no source to find. Do they have problems with re-engeneered things?

Best regards
Roland