If so like I was check out this vid. I have owned the older 500gt and had alot of tail problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0nXCY3MVrg

I have learned if you move the sticks the right way you wont crash.

Interesting Video

Hey, Who put the ground there!
T-Rex 500/T-Rex 600N FBL/T-Rex 600E PRO/T-Rex 700N/T-Rex 700FBL

Funny that they recommend it for beginners and intermediate...Wonder how much damage would we have been looking at if the pilot wasn't good with auto and the thick snow wasn't there, as typical of a beginner flying in summer

Yeah, and I wouldn't say it was "Handling" the 25mph winds either.

So much for an impartial opinion. If those guys were any more pro Hobby King, they would have HK tatoos on their forearms. What a STEAMING LOAD!

hobby king

I have a Trx 450 sa after a crash I bought cheapest belt drive HK 450. Used the tail assembly and most of head assembly. Did use almost all align ball ends. I have gotten a year out of that cheap stuff. I only do sport flying. I cant believe that cheap stuff held up that long! When going with HK I would go with belt drive not torque tube. Dave

They're on HK payroll.

There are two types of people in the world..#1.People who can extrapolate iinformation from context

Its just funny that they would be that honest and put that vid out. I have had good luck out of there cheap 450 but the 500 I had could not handle any kind of light 3D.

I have learned if you move the sticks the right way you wont crash.

Anyone thinking of getting a nice hk500cmt?

No

-Mark

www.markheli.com

Yeah, and I wouldn't say it was "Handling" the 25mph winds either.

The helicopter handled it fine. The pilot isn't all that skilled, however.

Two failures of the tail drive in only a few minutes of mild flying is the bigger problem here.

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Dave

* Making the World Better -- One Helicopter at a time! *

Team Heliproz

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about but isen't HK a copy cat company? I wanted to buy the copy of the Inerstia 860 but i never found anything that even looks close to the real one i have? How can they sell a GY401 gyro for $12.99 and futaba's is $140? How does it hold up compaired to the 401 of Futaba? Just questions hear i have never bought anything from them,i'm just curious?

Thanks and happy safe flying
SP

Spectra G 26cc
Jewel
Bat 27cc
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This is about as close as HK has to the Inertia 860...

http://www.hobby king.com/hobby king/...idProduct=15318 and it only vaguely looks the same....

This may be close to what the Inertia Nano would have been:

http://www.hobby king.com/hobby king/...idProduct=11958

As for Futaba 401, their somewhat similar look-alike, the HK401B doesn't necessarily have a good track record of performance.

Their Turnigy, Zippy, and Flightmax LiPos are exceptionally good. I've got a couple of their all-metal heads on two of my Trex 450s, they work great.

Some of their stuff is a bit questionable, but overall, they do a decent job of selling mostly good stuff at great prices.

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Dave

* Making the World Better -- One Helicopter at a time! *

Team Heliproz

There hk 401 does great. Ive owned both the HK 401 and Futaba 401 and I dont see a big difference. I did have to glue the board to the case of the HK gyro. Some of the HK items are worth the money. You just have to know what to buy. As far as there batts, if you look they are all over the place. That should speak for itself.

I have learned if you move the sticks the right way you wont crash.

Too funny by the way what are CLOCK TOCKS? LOL…. (if you watch the video toward the end you will hear the guy say “clock tocks”).
After seeing this video I would not buy one to be 100% honest it looks like junk to me. It’s bad enough that some Align kits have problems but this kit is an entirely different ball of wax! (Very low quality/subpar quality by the looks of it)

I would never recommend this for beginner no freaking way with that may problems this is for someone who knows what they are doing. It would be a nightmare for a fist timer. I will say it and say it again these kits provided very little value after you add all the components needed to complete them with low end electronics (like shown in this video).

You are better off getting a Trex 500 ESP flybar heli and you get the lot; servos (that are actually very good), Gyro (that is actually very good), 500MX motor (excellent motor), full metal head, full metal tail, lock tight, Velcro, extra hardware and a fantastic manual. All you need is a receiver and you are flying. No 500GT for me please I have seen them and the ones I have see are loaded with Align parts because the 500GT parts fail.

HK500/500GT= POOR VALUE FOR $$ …..

Angelo

Ugly can be fixed stupid is forever!

I dont know if there good helis or bad helis, but its unfair to judge when its obviously been built, setup and flown by someone who is relatively new to flying helis like the people in that video.

HK

i've seen a few of their 450 pro copies and except for the canopy, they can sit side by side with align and they fly well. I would not hesitate to buy one and probably will. i have no doubt that the 500cmt will be the same quality, and i'll buy one just to convert my 500 to TT and have left over parts. i have also seen the lower priced plastic 500s, which are crap, but I also think the Align plastic stuff is crap.

align doesn't sell frame kits like HK, and if they did, they probably wouldn't be too much more - it's the individual cost of parts that makes align so expensive...HK may force Align to reconsider their packaging. I have flown the 401 knock off on a 450 and it flies fine. But keep in mind that a 401 is hardly state of the art in 2011 and anyone trying to sell one for over $50 is in dream land.

my 2 cents...

Thats why I dont think I would buy one, because if you were to put half decent stuff in it similar to what you get in an Align kit, there would not be much price difference anyway.

I did actually buy one some time ago, but it was back when they were first released and all plastic, all I had left after crashing my Align 500 was the head so I used that on it, the only thing I did not like was the metal sideframes, not so much that they made the heli fly any better or worse, I just thought they were kind of nasty looking, I also did not like the black skids.

There was a lot of little "cosmetic" things that did not so much effect how well it flew but just made me not like it that much.

I think alot of that has changed now, the frames a CF and even the canopy no longer looks like they cut it out of a used milk carton.

All I can say is I have built 2 Trex 500’s, One Trex 700LE, One Trex 700E, One Trex 600 NSP, One Trex 450 Pro, One Trex 450 (the old push pull), Three Trex 550’s, Two Trex 250’s , and you know what? They all flew well right out of the box with no issues or upgrades needed. Align has come a long way in terms of quality.

I also have built HeliDirects HDX 450 (this bird exceeded my expectations and was very reliable and flew well) and the HDX 500 both were excellent kits and again no issues at all.

I have seen HK500’s and 500GT’s and it’s the same issues over and over the parts are subpar in reference to quality fit and finish. If you took a Trex 500ESP kit with the same performance specs of the; Servos, Motor, ESC, Gyro, (or 3G unit), Carbon fiber main blades, Carbon fiber tail blades, Velcro, Loctight, tie wraps, hook loop tape, extra parts bag, Painted canopy, and you purchased all the items separately for a HK500/500GT you would spend more on a HK500, 500GT for sure there is no doubt about it.

Now keep in mind I am talking servos with the same performance specs of the Align DS510’s, Align 500MX motor, Align ESC, Align carbon blades, and Align DS520 tail servo. Price it yourself and you will see.

And lastly I have seen someone whose name I don’t know fly this stuff and this person has issues all the time. The funny things is this person brags about how much money they are saving and he spends more time fixing then flying his 450/500 off brands. I enjoy building my helis just as much as flying them that’s just me, but if I spend hours and hours building them need the same return flying them so I can enjoy the hobby.

Ugly can be fixed stupid is forever!

From what I've seen some of the HK helis' tolerances and fits are rough. You have to be able to know what you're looking at to diagnose a problem fit and correct it. This is why it's not a good buy for a beginner. The Gohbee helis' tolerances and part fits are similar and also probably not good kits for a beginner.
This hobby is already very difficult in the beginning to learn all the terminology and stuff needed to get a kit flying. If you add to the mix a kit that needs extra work on top of just assembly to get it functioning right it is not going to fly.
Then again, the prices of the HK stuff makes it very tempting to try.

esm...i think you are confusing the issue. I would agree that if someone was going to buy a complete heli, the LE or prepackaged kits sold by Align are a good value - which is the reason I suspect that they did it in the first place. But if I ball up my 500 it would be cheaper for me to buy an HK replacement cmt than to piece together with Align parts. And as I said, having seen the Align 450 Pro and the HK copy side by side, they are identical, and it wouldn't surprise me if they came from the same place, as is the rumor on many of the older 450 kits. That doesn't mean that everything that comes out of HK's doors is high quality, as I have seen a plastic tail case on the cheaper 500 explode in a hover. But the reverse is also true, and just because Ford built the Pinto doesn't mean I shouldn't buy a Mustang.

I was given a setup video many years ago and they said that the newby needs a ship thats super setup I call it my glass of wine setup "you fly take a sip from your glass and keep on flying" LOL .You need a stable ship with NO bad habits .T rex makes the chevy of helicopters its not the best but it doesn't caulst likes a Rolls Royce its a good value they fly good and you can almost get parts at the local A&P the bigger you can afford the better .I learned on a T rex 450 look for a used one at a hobby shop were they fly have them set it up .Offer to pay for the set up you will save in the long run .There are lots of 450s around they are cheep and will fly infinitely better than a cheaply made clone .good luck