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RAPTOR 30
cyclic servo upgrades
mtf302

Heliman

Canton MI

Just curious what my fellow rappy 30 pilots have been using for cyclic servos. I'm in the market for new servos and will be running them with the Align 2 in 1 Bec. I have JR Nes 537's on it right now, which was fine for learning hovering and basic forward flight. I'm am now feeling confident about starting to learn 3d and don't have faith in these servos. I don't want to pay 100 bucks a servo, so I don't need the best. Just a little better, digital, and reliable. Any suggestions? Thanks

03-14-2010 05:47 PM
dcbusdriver

Senior Heliman

Stephens City,VA -USA

servos

I have been running these on my R30 for quite a while and with the align 2 in 1 6v is great output very inexpensive for beginning 3d in my opinion.

http://www.servocity.com/html/s3010...ll_bearing.html

beating the air into submission...........cool!

03-14-2010 06:14 PM
PAHelinut

Veteran

PA USA

Yep I've been running Futaba 3010's in my R30's for years. Great price at $22 and bullet proof. Can't go wrong.

03-14-2010 06:19 PM
mtf302

Heliman

Canton MI

Cool, definitely is in my price range! Looks like they have about double the torque of my current ones, sounds like a winner. Thanks!

03-14-2010 06:21 PM
dcbusdriver

Senior Heliman

Stephens City,VA -USA

servos

Yep, use these on the 30 and when you can wring it out go put some nice ones in a 50 an have a ball!

beating the air into submission...........cool!

03-14-2010 06:25 PM
mtf302

Heliman

Canton MI

Lol yeah, thanks again!

Sweet a Hegde Trimmer

03-14-2010 06:39 PM
TMoore

rrMaster

Cookeville, TN

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/474542.asp

Look at these Digital servos.

Look around, there are a lot of options in servos from a lot of companies right now. Lot's of good deals.

TM

Flybarless - "Some silly gyro thingy for some whirlie birdie machine......."

03-14-2010 06:59 PM
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jschenck

rrProfessor

La Vista, NE.

Hitec HS635's are also good and can run at higher voltage, quite a bit faster than the Futaba 3010's. May also look at the Hitec HS5485's for cyclic. I would recommend a digital coreless servo of some type for collective if you are going to start doing pitch pumping stuff like tic-toc's.

Team GrandRC

03-14-2010 07:03 PM
JeffKollin

Key Veteran

Jenison, MI

I just changed all my cyclics to Align DS610's, I am going to be converting it to a 50 sometime in the future and my thought was for the price I could run them now and have a good servo when I converted. I run them in my SE also and have not had any problems with them. I ran 3010's for a while but with my progression in flying I had a problem with the pitch servo. The pitch would always change when flying the heli. Dont no if this was the force being put on the 3010 but I would always have to go back and do mechanical setup to get my pitch degrees back. I was loosing negative pitch. Since changing to the 610's I have not had to do that and it flies great with them. Cheap for digital torque/speed!

03-14-2010 08:15 PM
LonR

Elite Veteran

Macomb,Mi

The Align DS610's are the bomb and I love them.Have a set on my Raptor 90 3D and there flat out awesome,fast as heck and tons of torque.They will last you a looonnggg time and once you upgrade to a 50 you'll have some sweet servos.If you look around in the for sale section,you can find them brand new (set of 3) for $150.00-$160.00 but you gotta snag them fast as they sale fast . I'll be getting another set for my other Raptor once I save the $$ .

600LE,OS55,OS PowerBoost pipe,Align 610's,Spartan

03-14-2010 09:01 PM
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rlmarch

Senior Heliman

Titusville, Florida,US

I like the Align DS620's perfect for a 50/600. Faster than the DS610's. So if you upgrade to a 50 size you'll have fast servos.
Here's the spec's

●Stall torque:8.0kg.cm(111.09 oz. in.) @ 4.8V
10.0kg.cm (138.87 oz. in.) @ 6.0V
●Motion speed: 0.09sec/60(4.8V)
0.07sec/60 (6.0V)
●Rating voltage: DC 4.8-6V
●Temperature range: -20C~+60C
●Dimension: 40.3 x 20.1 x 36mm
●Weight: 52.2g

03-14-2010 11:08 PM
LonR

Elite Veteran

Macomb,Mi

620's are slower on cyclic because they don't have the torque to push the speed or keep up.They might be faster on the bench but in the air there slower with a load,the DS620 was made to be a tail servo before the DS650 came out.Your not going to notice .1 sec of speed but you will notice the torque and thats what you want on the Raptor anyways.Fast servo with low torque won't last as long as a servo with alot of torque.Heres the specs.

Torque:4.8V:133.3 oz-in (9.60 kg-cm)
6.0V:166.6 oz-in (12.00 kg-cm)

Speed:4.8V:0.10 sec/60
6.0V:0.08 sec/60
Not argueing,just stating a face thats been said a million times because noone will notice .1 sec of speed.

600LE,OS55,OS PowerBoost pipe,Align 610's,Spartan

03-14-2010 11:34 PM
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JeffKollin

Key Veteran

Jenison, MI

^ +1

03-14-2010 11:37 PM
rlmarch

Senior Heliman

Titusville, Florida,US

Everyone was using 9252 on 90's withe less speed and less torque. So on a 600 its difinitely has enough torque.

My opinion

03-15-2010 12:01 AM
rlmarch

Senior Heliman

Titusville, Florida,US

Heres futaba s9252 spec's that everyone was using on 11 to 13 lb machines.

Detailed Specifications

Control System: +Pulse Width Control 1520usec Neutral
Required Pulse: 3-5 Volt Peak to Peak Square Wave
Operating Voltage: 4.8 Volts Only
Operating Temperature Range: -20 to +60 Degree C
Operating Speed (4.8V): 0.14sec/60 degrees at no load
Stall Torque (4.8V): 92 oz/in. (5.5kg.cm)
Operating Angle: 45 Deg. one side pulse traveling 400usec
360 Modifiable: Yes
Direction: Counter Clockwise/Pulse Traveling 1520-1900usec
Motor Type: Coreless Motor
Potentiometer Drive: Indirect Drive
Bearing Type: Dual Ball Bearing
Gear Type: All Nylon Gears
Connector Wire Length: 12"
Dimensions: 1.6" x 0.8"x 1.5" (41 x 20 x 38mm)
Weight: 1.8oz. (50g)

03-15-2010 12:05 AM
mtf302

Heliman

Canton MI

Thanks for all the input! I will definitely consider all options. I'm sure any servos I put in it, will be better than the what is in it now! lol. Thanks again for the quick responses.

Sweet a Hegde Trimmer

03-15-2010 05:08 PM
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