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Best fuel proof paint

junkpilot

Veteran

Alamogordo N.M.

For the first time I painted a canopy on the outside surface. I now need to clearcoat it and need to know what is the best paint to use.
A paint that won't yellow.
Junkpilot

When you fly JUNK it's hard to tell when you've crashed!

01-28-2010 Over year old.
marc8090

Elite Veteran

Long Island, N.Y.

Any automotive quality clear such as PPG or Dupont. Has to be the kind you mix and shoot with a spray gun. I've never found a one part paint or spray can that was truly fuel proof.

01-28-2010 Over year old.
RcNutTz

Senior Heliman

Chicago Illinois USA

I let a body shop clear coat mine after I painted it probably about 9 or so gallons ran since cleared (3 years) and its still in good shape I even use car polish ever now and then to shine it up

I be leave he used PPG

yes dear the hobby shop again

01-28-2010 Over year old.
Smok

Senior Heliman

Antwerp, Belgium

I am using the Tamiya spray can paints for polycarbonate, these are usually used for RC car body painting. Their part numbers start with PS.

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ca...hp?sub-id=61700

But it also depends what was the previous layer paint, as some combinations might react and peel-off or melt.. I would give it a try on a scrap of the same kind of material as the body material.

01-28-2010 Over year old.
ch-47c

Elite Veteran

san jose, ca

If you can get it at your local hobbyshop, Lusterkote. It is a line that is designed to match Topflite Monokote colors. It is fuelproof and it stays clear. I painted an X-cell Pro canopy with Tamiya paints for plastic models and clearcoated it with Lusterkote back in 1997 and it still hasn't yellowed.
If I can't get a can of Lusterkote, I use a clear from Lowe's. On the road and can't remember the name. The can has a tan label.

01-28-2010 Over year old.
RcNutTz

Senior Heliman

Chicago Illinois USA

Lusterkote

I've use Lusterkote on another canopy and it does work but it dont have the shine or quality "look" that my other canopy has that was cleared at the body shop

not sure you can see the one on the left is 4 coats of "Lusterkote" the on on the right is 2 coats of PPG automotive in person there's a big difference


by the way if you painting a "bleach bottle" type of canopy like the stock raptor you'll need to use a "adhesion promoter" then a "automotive bumper" primer "before" you do any paint work

yes dear the hobby shop again

01-28-2010 Over year old.
JuanRodriguez

Elite Veteran

The Villages, Florida

I could be wrong but I believe Lusterkote is "fuel proof" up to only 15 % nitro fuel.....

You would probably be OK with higher nitro content as long as you don't accidentally spill/splash/splatter "raw" fuel (higher than 15% nitro) on the canopy....

01-29-2010 Over year old.
Funky Trex

Elite Veteran

Westerville, OH - USA

I have DuPont clear on all of the custom canopies in my gallery. It has held up very well so far even when I left some of them for weeks without cleaning the fuel off of them.

...although I have lost some paint on the edges of some canopies but I am pretty hard on them so I chalk it up to standard abuse

01-29-2010 Over year old.
dkshema

rrMaster

Cedar Rapids, IA

Clear coat that is easy to work with, cures hard as nails, and is impervious to model airplane fuel:

PPG Omni AU high solids clear urethane finish (MC161) mixed with fast hardener (MC167), and sprayed using a small compressor and an automotive touch up paint gun.

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Dave

* Making the World Better -- One Helicopter at a time! *

Team Heliproz

01-29-2010 Over year old.
JuanRodriguez

Elite Veteran

The Villages, Florida

^^^

That is the exact same product I use.... great results....

But...... you need to have respect for that type (or any similar type) of 2 part urethane product....

You MUST wear a proper respirator or risk permanently damaging your lungs.....

I own a "hobby type" positive pressure mask and use it when spraying this product....

If you're not willing to spend the money to protect your lungs, your next best option is to have your local automotive collision shop spray the clear for you....

This is a cowland wheel pants I sprayed last summer with the Omni clear.....The colors underneath are Dupont base colors custom blended but sprayed out of a spray bomb....

01-29-2010 Over year old.
dkshema

rrMaster

Cedar Rapids, IA

if you painting a "bleach bottle" type of canopy like the stock raptor you'll need to use a "adhesion promoter" then a "automotive bumper" primer "before" you do any paint work
Not necessarily true.

I painted several Kyosho bleach bottle canopies, as well as Hirobo EVO and Freya canopies without the adhesion promoter.

I lightly sanded the surface using 400 grit wet-or-dry sandpaper wet to remove all shine from the plastic. Following that, I wiped the surface down with Xylol. When that was dry, I used Rustoleum primer for plastics, a single light coat, and let it cure per the instructions on the can.

The primer coat was followed with three light coats of Rustoleum enamel, again, following the instructions on the can.

This stuff reaches its maximum adhesion and chip-resistance after 7 days. I let the canopy sit for a week, then applied any decals I wanted, then followed that with three light coats of PPG Omni AU with the hardener. Again, follow the instructions. I sprayed the final coat to get a wet look, but was careful not to overdo it to prevent runs and sags.

After curing, this stuff was hard as nails and did not peel off or flake off.

Five bleach bottle canopies, all the same treatment:

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Dave

* Making the World Better -- One Helicopter at a time! *

Team Heliproz

01-29-2010 Over year old.
twitch

Key Veteran

Las Vegas

Im very picky when it comes to clear and have done alot of research and testing on all the brands. The most bag for the buck on an excellent product is Matrix "Euro Clear". Will be inexpensive compared to the others but by no means cheaper quality. I have been using it for years on cycle jobs exceeding $6k with flawless results. On the other side of the spectrum Id have to say the worst clear would be HOK, I love their paint but their clear just doesnt cut it.
And a note: anyone spraying VOC's should always wear a mask. After the years of airbrushing and painting I havent worn my mask as much as you should and now have minor permeant damage to my central nervous system due to it. Be sure to always wear a mask.

01-29-2010 Over year old.
dkshema

rrMaster

Cedar Rapids, IA

My spray equipment:

My spray booth was the great outdoors.

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Dave

* Making the World Better -- One Helicopter at a time! *

Team Heliproz

01-29-2010 Over year old.
RcNutTz

Senior Heliman

Chicago Illinois USA

I used Rustoleum primer for plastics
the bumper primer is the same thing, when I didnt use the promoter the paint flaked but I didnt wipe it with Xylol maybe that was the key to it?

yes dear the hobby shop again

01-29-2010 Over year old.
ch-47c

Elite Veteran

san jose, ca

I didn't read the title thoroughly.

The best if you don't want to do it yourself for whatever reason, is to take it to an autobody shop and have them clearcoat it. I use to work at a body shop and most will do it for a reasonable price. If your canopy has an art like paint scheme and the paint is compatabile, that's the route I would go. But for the amount of money for the canopy, paint, clearcoating, and time; it's easier to buy from the many canopy vendors. Some paint jobbers will also mix paint like any a body shop needs and put it in an aersol can for you for a very reasonable price.

To clearcoat for fuelproofing, I recommend Lusterkote as I posted earlier. It does have a semi-gloss finish. I've used it on canopies while flying with 30% nitro fuel with no problems. I've heard of others that had problems, but I have experienced it. At Lowe's and other hardware stores, Krylon has a clearcoat that is available in matte, semi-gloss, and gloss finish. Krylon is fuelproof.

01-29-2010 Over year old.
twitch

Key Veteran

Las Vegas

Another possible rout if you dont have a compressor and have to spray out of a can, then a great company called Alsa makes a 2 part automotive clear coat in a spray can. Its a urethane automotive clear with a hardener that is able to be mixed in the can when ready to spray. One can is enough to do a few canopies and has a nice wet look but will have to spray them at the same time due the hardener.


http://www.alsacorp.com/products/sp...speed_price.htm

01-29-2010 Over year old.
RcNutTz

Senior Heliman

Chicago Illinois USA

twitch

the cost of that stuff is way to high

the body shop charged me $10 to clear mine, I thought it was a great deal since I would have not saved much if I bought the paint myself

yes dear the hobby shop again

01-29-2010 Over year old.
twitch

Key Veteran

Las Vegas

Yea, Alsa is expensive stuff but an option for the die hard do it yourselfer. You can swing 4 canopies with the one can though. That be $10 a piece

01-29-2010 Over year old.
junkpilot

Veteran

Alamogordo N.M.

Clear coat

Thank you gentlemen for all your input ! I now have plenty of information to fumble through. I will be clearcoating this weekend weather permitting.
Junkpilot

When you fly JUNK it's hard to tell when you've crashed!

01-29-2010 Over year old.
Pizza Hut NUT

Senior Heliman

Ft.Wayne Ind. USA

is Krylon clear fuel proof ? i am ready to paint my bell 222 and thinking about krylon then clear coat with PPG. But if Krylon is fuel proof then Iguess I might save some $$$

04-15-2010 Over year old.
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