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FlyingHigh450
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Location: Macomb,Mi

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Ok so ive been reading alot of threads about the flybarless helis and want to know the pros and cons.How does it help with smack down on the deck flying,rolls,tictocs ect..Also what all will I loose on my heli now as in my electronics,what all does the FBL replace?All my stuff is brand new (less than 2-3 months old) ,Spartan DS760/JRDS8900G,3 Align DS610's .I guess what im asking is would I need to take any of my electronics off and use somthing ealse?

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11-04-2009 10:33 PM
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big dog
Heliman
Location: MI US

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		the vbar makes some moves easyer because you put it in a postion and it still there i know guys that have vbars and they can beat the crap of a vbar helicopter and they cant do some moves that they can on a flybar helicopter because you have to make more corrections. And i have flown one and there is no lag when you move the sticks. so what i am saying is that makes some moves easyer to do with a vbar.
11-04-2009 10:40 PM
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FlyingHigh450
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Location: Macomb,Mi

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big dog
they cant do some moves that they can on a flybar helicopter because you have to make more corrections.
So if I went FBL I would loose a little.In your opinion is it worth switching ?I really don't wanna loose some moves just to make it a little quicker or is it somthing I would have to get used to?

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11-04-2009 10:50 PM
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big dog
Heliman
Location: MI US

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		it is whatever you want to do. but what i saying is that you have to understand when you go to a vbar it is a computer. you can sit there and it will hover by itself so if you want to go to one that is fine it is what you want to do and there is alot of set up you have to do to it so it is all up too you. i would love to have a vbar i would get one if i had the money but that is me.
11-04-2009 10:53 PM
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VooDooX
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area CA, US (San Mateo)

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		flying high you should be able to do more moves nto less because with a flybar basicly how the sim flys is how a flybarless heli flys you would only loose your flybar and the gyro (sell gyro to pay for flybarless) its really awesome you can change SOOO MANY THINGS on your helicopter with like 3 minutes connected to a laptop you can go from gentle scale to full hardcore 3d


What you will get
1.more pitch up to like 15-18 degrees or more even but who would want more then 16
2.more acurate moves (wind wont affect them as much as gyros are compensating
3.longer flight times
4.more power (less rotating mass for the engine to move because flybar and all associated parts are gone)
5.unlimited adjusability (as in lets say you want a fast stick movment to apply more pitch then the stick actually moved you can set it up so if you move the stick fast then it adds more pitch so 1/4 stick burst would be equivalent to 1/2 stick movement normally but move it slow and it keeps it the same really good for tic tocs and piroflips
6.less unwanted movement from machine due to 3 axis gyro
7. cool factor
8.cool factor lol


What you will lose
1.Some money
2.a flybar


buy it try it if you dont like it sell it resale on them is like 90% right now

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11-04-2009 11:01 PM
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big dog
Heliman
Location: MI US

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		i never said that he was going to loose move when he gose with a vbar i said there will be some moves that he will have a hard time doing with the vbar because you dont have to make all the corrections like you would have to do with a vabr that is what i said.
11-04-2009 11:06 PM
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VooDooX
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area CA, US (San Mateo)

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with the vbar because you dont have to make all the corrections like you would have to do with a vabr that is what i said.

without? or with? please correct that sentence so we know what your saying?

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11-04-2009 11:12 PM
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FlyingHigh450
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Location: Macomb,Mi

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Ok,this sounds REALLY good so far.What about crashes,would I need to hook it up to my PC to reset things or just make sure links,arms ect.. are centered?

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11-04-2009 11:12 PM
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holzback
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Location: noblesville IN United States

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		why even consider making your heli more exspencive?? you got to learn the manuvers first, which will be alot of crashes, then learning to control it on the deck. buy parts and fuel, they will contribute more than any flybarless setup. you seem serious about learning, so make wise choices with your money. im serious, these are the choices that will play big in your flying. it is not what you fly, it is how you fly it.

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11-04-2009 11:16 PM
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heli-cuzz
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Location: Pittston, Pa. USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I bang it on the deck alright, just usually much to low.

They're all helicopters. Some have paddles and some don't.
Either type you're flying will do anything you throw at it equally as well. I'm sure some may disagree with that statement. It's up to the skill of the pilot, not the size paddles or the fancy e-stabi sytem.

One thing for sure the FBL is a bit faster in motion with slightly extended flight times. The FBL is more efficient with power transfer to the blades. Crashes seemingly are better as meaning less damage.
FBL looks better.

The other day my friend Tony was putting the canopy on his raptor 30 and his head was close to the heli. I grabbed the flybar and flipped his hat off his head with the paddle, hehehe....
....Only to say to him, if he was FBL that would have never happened!

11-04-2009 11:18 PM
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VooDooX
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area CA, US (San Mateo)

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		if you crash you dotn have to hook it up to a pc only when changing settings otherwise treat is just like a gyro once its set it stays set till you change it

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11-04-2009 11:22 PM
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heli-cuzz
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Location: Pittston, Pa. USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Just go Naked FBL

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why even consider making your heli more exspensive??

Not here. I bought an Outrage FBL conversion head and that's it.
I'm still a firm believer that you don't need that 500 dollar stabi sytem

11-04-2009 11:25 PM
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FlyingHigh450
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Location: Macomb,Mi

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holzback
why even consider making your heli more exspencive?? you got to learn the manuvers first, which will be alot of crashes, then learning to control it on the deck.
I "THINK" im doing pretty good on the deck and I have pretty good controll over my heli or no ?


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11-04-2009 11:25 PM
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heli-cuzz
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Location: Pittston, Pa. USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Get that paddled POS out this thread, lon. LoL

j/k bro.
11-04-2009 11:27 PM
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FlyingHigh450
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Location: Macomb,Mi

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		ROFL,im trying to do somthing with them LOL.

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11-04-2009 11:30 PM
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FlyingHigh450
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Location: Macomb,Mi

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		heli-cuzz,
I watched that video again and she rolls/flips sooo nice,wonder how my T600 will fly without the stabi sytem .

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11-04-2009 11:48 PM
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holzback
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Location: noblesville IN United States

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		do what you want, but when you start piro manuvers you will understand. 85% of your flying was far from the deck.

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11-05-2009 12:07 AM
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FlyingHigh450
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Location: Macomb,Mi

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holzback
do what you want, but when you start piro manuvers you will understand.85% of your flying was far from the deck.

Where did I say I wanna fly on the deck the whole time ,if I want to I will,cause I know I can.I asked about advice on the FBL system,not on my flying.BTW,I started learning piro manuvers 2 months ago.Your trying to tell me stuff im allready doing and didn't ask about.What ealse would you like to know about my flying before you help me with what im asking about?Heck,I didn't know I had to be a pro pilot to put this on my heli and know every trick out there but thanks to you I know now..
Im just going to close this,I see it was a bad ideal asking for advice help now .

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11-05-2009 12:59 AM
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