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rich m
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Location: Stroudsburg, PA. USA

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I am curious how other people have modified their vbar setup from the mikado preset for the 600. So far I have really only increased the collective range as I am happy with the way that the cyclic feels. What I am really after is the tail settings. I notice the tail feels a little soft. During alot of sideways manuevers the tail doesnt always hold the greatest. That being said any help anyone could give me would be appreciated.

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11-04-2009 04:37 PM
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MrMel
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Location: Lidingo, Sweden (GMT+1)

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you can download my setting on my site (http://heli.dacsa.net)
Load the VBar Simulation software and load the file in there to view.

My site: http://heli.dacsa.net
11-04-2009 04:53 PM
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dahld
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Location: Bakersfield, CA, USA

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V-Bar tail settings

Kyle uses this on his 600's:
Edge 95mm tail blades.
Yaw rate default @ 104.
Gyro gain default @ 80.

In the expert menu:
All the numbers are default except the "Torque Pre-Comp" on Collective is 20, Cyclic is 0.
"Optimizer" is off...as in never turned on, not used. Reason: It is too hard to make multiple helis fly EXACTLY the same while using it.
"Control Curve" is Linear (but 15% expo is used in the radio).

Nothing Kyle can do to the heli in any flight regime unlocks the tail, and it never "wags" under high stress situations.

Hope this helps,

Dave

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11-04-2009 06:59 PM
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rich m
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Location: Stroudsburg, PA. USA

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Thanks guys. I am actually relieved by what you just wrote Dave. I just reset my vbar and forgot to turn on the optimizers but thought that it flew good with the exception of the tail. It's good to know you dont use this function as I am building an identical 600 as a backup machine. Thanks again.

Rich

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11-04-2009 07:19 PM
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helicraze
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Location: Victoria - Australia

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I stopped using the optimizer on the tail also.

I think precomp needs to go up 18/9 or 20/10 and also the acceleration by 10 points and i gain by 5 or 10.

Increasing the precomp will help in sideways moves and the acceleration and I gain will crisp it up and make piro reversals better also.
11-04-2009 11:27 PM
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rich m
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Location: Stroudsburg, PA. USA

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I just put a flight on it with the precomp set at 20 for collective and 0 for pitch and it feels much better. I tried last night to load Mr. Mel's file but I for some reason can not figure out how to do it. I still may mess with the acceleration and the I gain but I am not sure yet. It seems to be working good so I dont want to mess with too much. Thanks again. If someone could explain to me how to open Mr. Mel's vbar file I would appreciate it.

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11-05-2009 03:48 PM
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MrMel
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right click and Save as, then you can open it as normal (in the program, press "open", then select the file, select all checkboxes.

Just make sure you run the simulation, not connected else you will overwrite your current setup.

My site: http://heli.dacsa.net
11-05-2009 03:55 PM
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rich m
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Location: Stroudsburg, PA. USA

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Thanks MrMel. I actually tried that last night but it wouldnt recognize the file. When I went back tonight to try I realized I needed to select the All Files tab at the bottom of the window. Looking at the way both of you setup your vbar definately helps. I am going to play around a little to see what I can come up with. Thanks for the help you guys, I really do appreciate it.

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11-06-2009 01:56 AM
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