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SpinergySpox
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Location: Green Bay, WI

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I know this thread might seem to fit better in the general discussion, I'm posting it here because I just finished building my Vibe 50 and made a quick observation. It's built up like this:

OS 50SX-H Hyper engine
Curtis Youngblood MP-50SB pipe
Futaba S9252 servos x 4
Futaba GY-611 w/ S9256 servo
Futaba R-149DPS receiver
...and a 4.8V receiver battery.

All of this is pretty standard equipment for a non-miniature heli. Moreover, there are no upgraded parts on my Vibe 50. Everything is stock. I put it on the work table and stepped back and looked at it. It looks fantastic! But I also noticed something else: it's physically about as big as my 90-sized helis. And when I pick it up, it seems to weigh almost as much too. I haven't put it on a scale, so I don't know exactly what my build-up weighs. But looking on the web, I've seen unbuilt weights for the Vibe 50 ranging from 7.25 to 8.25 lbs. An unbuilt MA Fury Tempest weighs about 10 lbs (and nobody has ever considered MA Fury's to be light).

So, I figure it like this: The Vibe 50 weighs about 73% of what a 90-size heli weighs, but it uses only 55% of the engine capacity of a 90-size heli. If you equip it with an OS 55HZ, that number goes to 60%. Doesn't that invariably equate to a heli that lacks the performance of a 90-sized heli? Could that be why, until people started purchasing Vibe 50s left and right, 50-sized helis didn't seem to be very popular?
10-31-2009 06:32 AM
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Cheech91060
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Location: Aberdeen, MD

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I'm not sure why you say .50s are unpopular.

Anyway, its obvious there is a performance gain with .90s. To complete your comparison you should include build/repair costs and fuel consumption. Those are the main reasons .50s continue to be popular, imho.

Frank
HBFP, Trex 450, Vibe 50
11-03-2009 03:30 PM
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Turkana
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Location: Montreal,Quebec , Canada

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That is the only reason why I love my Vibe 50.If you dont have money to burn and most of us dont then the 50 is the perfect size. It starts with the cost of fuel and ends with engineparts. Then you have the crashcost.Just compare the mainblade prices geee.Now with the bigger 50 size engines its even getting better, not that I have any problems with my Hyper but when it dies why not try more punsh the Vibe can definatly take and use it. Regards Pete
11-04-2009 01:12 AM
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Sillyness
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Location: Little Rock AR

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The Vibe .50 is also popular because it tracks better than any of the 3 TRex 700s I've flown.

I have an electric TRex 600E with a Vibe 50 head on it running on 12S. It has more punch than any 90, tracks better than a 700, and flips way faster. I have no desire at all to get a 90 now. I'm glad a couple folks let me fly their 90s... it was a little disappointing. One of them I set up myself, so I know it was right. Spending my 700SE cash on a couple electric airplanes (57” and 70”) instead.
11-04-2009 02:32 AM
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2LTime
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Although I have no real figures, I always seemed to think Fury's WERE pretty light. At the Funflies I've been to they seem to auto better than the other 90's there. Could have been the pilots though. I also seemed to think a Raptor 90 was around 12 pounds.

Jeff

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11-04-2009 03:07 AM
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dhc8guru
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Location: Texas

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Marketing, technology and cost is why the .50 is becoming more popular.
11-11-2009 03:44 PM
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