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ElyQ Vision 50 > Mounting the cyclic servos?
 
 
ccpm raptor
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Which way would you mount the cyclic servo? Push pull or dirrect?
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10-30-2009 01:54 AM
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RCHeliWorks
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Direct is the only way now!

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10-30-2009 01:57 AM
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ccpm raptor
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That's what I was thinking

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10-30-2009 02:57 AM
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oragami
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Direct is the best way. I have flown everything in the book and I can honestly say that Direct Drive is the only way to go. It makes the Helicopter so Precise, and predictable. I wouldnt have it any other way.

Craig
10-30-2009 03:49 AM
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Callum
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Agreed Direct is the way to go,

Could be bad news for your servos in a bad crash though

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10-30-2009 10:00 AM
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ccpm raptor
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Maybe not if they are 8717 I like direct because it looks like my furion setup.

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10-30-2009 11:14 AM
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oragami
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8717's are what I use. On direct, the stronger and faster the servo, the better performance. Because you are not speeding up with Ratios, You have to depend on the Servos to do all the work. 8717's on 8V Rock this thing.

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Craig
10-30-2009 01:38 PM
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ccpm raptor
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Good that what I have setting here waiting Just received my kit. Nice!

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10-31-2009 01:22 AM
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blade3d
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So you can use either bell crank or direct drive the kit has the iption ?

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10-31-2009 02:48 PM
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Double Springs
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There are provisions in the frames to mount the servos and use bell cranks, but the kits currently only come with the direct drive hardware. I would assume that they will offer a bell crank hardware kit in the future.

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10-31-2009 03:02 PM
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blade3d
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I thought the kit came with bell cranks dang and I allready bout the kit.

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10-31-2009 03:10 PM
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hoverking
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In the Future we will have the option from what i hear but not sure when

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10-31-2009 08:49 PM
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blade3d
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That's a bummer I don't like direct drive and by looking at the pics they show at the Web site I took it for granted that it would come with bell crank. ( Dissapointed here )

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10-31-2009 09:16 PM
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blade3d
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Don't mind me,no problem i'll give direct drive a try it's still a very cool copter I went over the parts very nice and the tail grips don't have any slop ( cool ) all Carbon and the price can't beat that.


Blade3d
11-01-2009 09:11 PM
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oragami
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Blade3D.

Give them a try, I think you will really like them. And later if you want Bell Cranks, you can always convert. But I think you will really like the way this Heli handles with the Direct Drive.

Try it out, and let us know what you think.

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Craig
11-01-2009 09:45 PM
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blade3d
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I will give it a try,,So any report on this Heli flies ? I have not started the build yet ( Soon )

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11-05-2009 03:58 PM
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oragami
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A small discovery on the Direct Drive servos with our 1 to 1 swash plate.

This weekend I played around with the Expo on my helicopter. I preach on how "True" this helicopter flys,and it does exactly that, but I was having a little problem with a couple Piro Meneuvers. I was kind of puzzled at first, but then a buddy of mine and I put our heads together.

We started reducing my Expo, and it started to feel alot better. I actually ended up going from 35 to -15 on my expo. We examined the way a Bell Crank system and standard swash plate worked with, and without expo; and the travel that you gain through changing the ratios by using bell cranks. We quickly learned why I was having a mechanical feel to my Heli during stirring meneuvers. It was the expo.

I am so use to running around 25 to 35 in all my old stuff that had bell cranks, that I completely forgot to take in consideration what Expo does to a Direct Drive servo system, with a 1 to 1 swash plate.

So if you are having a mechanical feel, A quarky, not so smooth feel, or a funky translation, During Stirring meneuvers, start to remove your expo rapidly until it cleans up. It works, trust me. Took all of about 5 minutes to go from 30 to -15, and man, what a huge difference in the way it feels now, and looks. Still True and Square, but now it doesn't have that funny translation, or feel during hard Piro Meneuvers.

Hope this helps

Craig
11-18-2009 04:25 PM
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that is great to know ill try this next time we go out!

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