RR Rated M For Mature
HOME   rrTV-PHOTO   GALLERIES   MY GALLERY   HELP-FAQ
myHOME PM pmRR MEMBERS 879 ONLINE 18 EVENTS SEARCH REGISTER  START HERE
 
2 pages [ <<    <    ( 1 )     2     NEXT    >> ]347 viewsPOST REPLY
ReadyHeli . Power Helis . CANOMOD

.
.
Antiques or Out of Business > Anyone making or have a Canopy for American Revolution 40?
 
 
britcardoc
Heliman
Location: Marietta, Georgia-USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
Title says it all.

Only regrets of a lifetime are things I did not do
10-28-2009 05:52 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
Wozza_au
Heliman
Location: Adelaide South Australia

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
Hi
Im not sure about the revolution heli's but if the 40 is the one that's identical to the GMP rebel then yes
http://mphelis.com/newhelishop/inde...d1bb0d019f74e47
any pic of the heli?
Wozza

I see dead pixels
10-29-2009 03:42 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE   GALLERY
 
 
ch-47c
Key Veteran
Location: san jose, ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
I doubt that anyone makes them. The American Revolution 40 looked like a Schluter HeliBaby knockoff, except it had a anodized red frames and tailboom if I remember correctly, rather than a GMP Rebel. I don't know if the HeliBaby canopy fits.
10-29-2009 06:33 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
Dave Willis
Senior Heliman
Location: Sevierville, TN USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
Blue

My Revolution is Blue

Dave

Miniature Aircraft/Futaba
10-29-2009 01:58 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE   GALLERY
 
 
ch-47c
Key Veteran
Location: san jose, ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
In hindsight they did come in red or blue. The 40s I've seen were all red, maybe by buyers choice. The 60 and Mantis seemed mostly red, but you're right some American Revolutions were for sure blue.
10-29-2009 09:41 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
ch-47c
Key Veteran
Location: san jose, ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
I don't have a photo, but found this. Is this the heli you have on post #11?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3175289/tm.htm

The Revolution Hoverstar did look alot like a GMP Rebel. It was developed I think by Len Sabato. I had a Hoverstar, but never flew it. Got it because Crickets were discontinued and I couldn't find one at the time.
10-29-2009 10:15 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
v22chap
Veteran
Location: Howe, Indiana

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
The American .40 revolution looked a lot like the helibaby ,,but the canopy was narrower than the helibaby by quite a bit .... but you might cut one of vintage helis helibaby canopies down some to make it fit the back plate !!!!

Here is their url : http://www.vintageheliparts.com/canopies
Good luck and keep us posted as to how it goes ...
Larry

Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters
10-29-2009 10:31 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE   HOMEPAGE   GALLERY
 
 
Wozza_au
Heliman
Location: Adelaide South Australia

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
Quote 

I don't have a photo, but found this. Is this the heli you have on post #11?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3175289/tm.htm

The Revolution Hoverstar did look alot like a GMP Rebel

Ahhh my bad interesting looking heli in the above link,the flybar paddle's look interesting wonder what they sounded like
Wozza

I see dead pixels
10-29-2009 10:52 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE   GALLERY
 
 
ch-47c
Key Veteran
Location: san jose, ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
Quote 
the flybar paddle's look interesting wonder what they sounded like

Whoopi Whistle?
10-30-2009 12:02 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
v22chap
Veteran
Location: Howe, Indiana

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
As I remember they didn't make any thing special ... been awhile though ... well only 3 yrs ago ... I helped my son do a science fair project in which we used a century swift and measured how much control movement change there was from the normal flybar paddles going to these can paddles ... and I don't remember it making any noise either .
Sure did draw a lot of attention at the flying field while we did the test .

Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters
10-30-2009 12:48 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE   HOMEPAGE   GALLERY
 
 
RAK402
Key Veteran
Location: Alhambra, CA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
The Revolution .40 came in red or blue.

The Revolution II (.60 sized) came in red, blue or green.

I seem to remember Mike Mas showing up with a green anodized Rev .40 at the MCAS base for a contest back around 1978.

The way he flew it made a big impression on me.


The canopies for the .40 sized machines were vacuum formed from a single piece of polycarbonate, which did not fit exactly as they should have. They held up pretty well, but would crack from fatigue over time.

They were not interchangeable with the Helibaby canopy, which was wider and shaped somewhat differently.

As mentioned above, the Revolution .40 was a knock-off or copy of the Helibaby with a couple of changes:

The side frames were somewhat similar, but far from interchangeable.

The clutch shaft on the Revolution had a bearing on top to help support it.

The flybar on the Helibaby was longer.

The paddles on the Helibaby were metal and very small. Revolution paddles were larger and plastic. Later Revolution "stunt" paddles were larger still.

The swashplate was held down by a tapered, spiral spring on the Helibaby. The swashplate ball was captive on the Revolution.

If I can remember correctly, the motor mounts on the Revolution were stamped, angle material, but were machined on the Helibaby.

The pulleys were improperly formed on the Revolutions (the peak was too sharp), causing the belt to ride the pulley in the middle only and wearing off the rubber from the belt quite rapidly.

The tail pitch mechanism on the Helibaby use an angled slot in a plate to move the pushrod to the collective spider in and out. The Revolution used a nylon bellcrank to accomplish this.

All the hardware on the Helibaby was metric, SAE on the Revolution.

The front of the tail boom on the Revolution had a block pressed onto it with tapped holes to mount it to the side frames. The Helibaby did not.


Both machines flew pretty much the same if set up with the same length flybar and same paddles (the longer Helibaby flybar combined with the larger American R/C stunt paddles seemed to work the best.

I still have my original Revolution .40 (complete an intact) and have been working slowly at restoring an American R/C Commander (Revolution II with a copy of the Schulter Heliboy head) for over a year now.

I also still have the mortal remains of my Helibaby...

KBDD-Field Rep.Common Sense/Compass Field Rep.
10-30-2009 01:16 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
Badgerfarm
Senior Heliman
Location: Missouri

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
I've been trying to figure a good way to reproduce the Revolution 40 canopies as they were originally and haven't come up with a good way yet. If I had a decent one to work with I could remake it as a two piece canopy that would be glued together. They wouldn't look identical to the originals but would be pretty close. Does anyone have a decent Revolution 40 canopy that they would part with for the cause? As a side note I'm also going to be remaking the American Revolution Commander canopies in the near future.
10-30-2009 04:17 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
ch-47c
Key Veteran
Location: san jose, ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
RAK402,
I see elsewhere that you had worked at GMP when the Cricket was in production. Could you recall some of the sources of parts outside of Hirobo? I also like reading your posts when waxing nostalgia about working at GMP.

Badgerfarm,
Can you make a balsa or plaster plug of a canopy half and then vacuumn form it?
10-30-2009 06:36 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
vrhc
Heliman
Location: Yorkshire - England

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
American revolution

Did these guys make the Mantis or was that someone else????


Joe

JWR - www.vrhc.co.uk - The Da Vinci Mode
10-30-2009 08:43 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE   HOMEPAGE   GALLERY
 
 
ch-47c
Key Veteran
Location: san jose, ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
They did make them.
10-30-2009 10:11 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
vrhc
Heliman
Location: Yorkshire - England

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
Mantis

Thanks for that, I have a part started kit of a Mantis that I bought for very little money recently in the UK and the only info was the original very old customs sticker on the box.

JWR

JWR - www.vrhc.co.uk - The Da Vinci Mode
10-30-2009 11:17 AM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE   HOMEPAGE   GALLERY
 
 
Badgerfarm
Senior Heliman
Location: Missouri

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
ch-47c, it depends on the canopy. what do you have in mind?
10-30-2009 01:08 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
RAK402
Key Veteran
Location: Alhambra, CA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
Badgerfarm,

The rest of the parts, as I recall, were from small machine shops in the area local to Calabasas. I can recall days where I would drive around most of the day to various shops, picking up parts from one shop, taking them to another, delivering things to be anodized, etc.

I cannot recall the names of any of the shops-it has been too long. I know that Mr. Gorham would change shops if they did not deliver the quality he was looking for.

I can remember packing kits, pressing the oilite bronze bushings into the clutch bells, cutting the clutch linings and gluing them in, sorting ball links and screws, helping pack kits, etc.

I do wish I had appreciated Mr. Gorham more, at the time. He was very nice to me.


Regarding the American R/C Mantis,

There were two versions, that I know of: a version with plywood frames and a version with plastic frames (the later version). I think there were also fixed and collective versions of each.

Supposedly, the Mantis was given its name because Mantis's eat Crickets. There were a few that I tried to set up for people, I do not recall them flying well at all, with the exception of the ones that American R/C used to demo (Curtis Croker used to fly them very well).

KBDD-Field Rep.Common Sense/Compass Field Rep.
10-30-2009 03:14 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE  
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
Yep I remember the fixed and collective versions of the Mantis.

American R/C (John Simone) went out of business when a plane hit the hanger they had set up shop in.


AMA 77227
http://www.jaxrc.com
10-30-2009 05:23 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE   GALLERY
 
 
v22chap
Veteran
Location: Howe, Indiana

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
O.K. test your American revolution trivia ...
How many types of rotor head systems did John do ??? ,,, how many made it to market ????

Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters
10-30-2009 09:45 PM
PROFILE   PM   EMAIL   POSTS   BUDDY   IGNORE   HOMEPAGE   GALLERY
 
 
2 pages [ <<    <    ( 1 )     2     NEXT    >> ]347 viewsPOST REPLY
Experience RC . Heli-Max . Hobby Hut

.
.
Antiques or Out of Business > Anyone making or have a Canopy for American Revolution 40?
 Print TOPIC Advertisers 

Subscribe to This Topic

Monday, November 23 - 1:55 am - Copyright © 2000 - 2009 runryder.com | email | link to rr | START HERE | NF