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mastic
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can I ask what gain settings you guys that use a CP II use and also is there a setting that adjusts how the heli centers itself? My heli when I switch on as a bailout always seems to lean to one side and not center completely vertical..Anyone got any help for me? Thanks Pals

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10-28-2009 05:40 PM
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bill the greek
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I dont have the CPII but these think works diferent from one helicopter to another. There is different settings always.keep in mind this system use the difference of temperature from space to earth (horizon) and need to calibrate before flight also If the IR sensor isnt level with your head there is problem.
finaly the gain isnt a isue cause if you have the CP on, must be level all the time. If you increase the gain just the heli return to level position faster.
Finaly all the IR systems on market has a little drift..

I think in your case need to check the sensor angle and run the calibrate setup.

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10-28-2009 11:12 PM
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nuguy
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There are a couple of options with the CPII,either mounting the sensor on an angle or there is a neat feature in which you can electronicaly set the flight angles for different flight modes.
Also you probably need to trim the model with auto trim on, so as your trim stays the same with copilot on or off.

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10-29-2009 07:38 AM
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nuguy
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Do you have the vertical sensor?This is a must have so you dont need to do feild calibrations.

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10-29-2009 07:39 AM
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mastic
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yes the CP II comes with it. Mount the sensor at an angle? Why would I do that?


Kevin do you have the cp II ? I was told by the guy at FMA to turn off auto trim for some reason. my CP works fine ,I use it as a bailout but when i turn it on it rights the heli but it doesnt right it perfectly vertical . Thanks for helping

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10-29-2009 01:28 PM
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AceBird
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I use it as a bailout but when i turn it on it rights the heli but it doesnt right it perfectly vertical .

As was said before you need to calibrate (tell the unit where the horizon is relative to your CG). There should be a way to do it electrically or you can tip the sensor slightly in the same direction that the heli drifts. Bear in mind this will always change based on wind direction and the IR signal that varies from place to place. That is why most people will ball park it by tipping the sensor and then maybe electrically calibrate it and finally use the trims from time to time to achieve perfection. Perfection can only be achieved if the tail is not rotated. If the tail is rotated 180 for instance then the offset, calibration, or tuning is now the opposite that it needs to be, hence the use of trimmers.

If you calibrate (electrically) in an open field on a dead calm day once, your right / left, fore / aft trimming will be to a minimum. Otherwise you will be injecting an offset for the conditions of the day that may double the error when the conditions change.

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10-29-2009 07:04 PM
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cranester
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Calibrate electrically.............?

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10-29-2009 07:07 PM
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mastic
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lol the CPII calibrates itself automatically

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nuguy
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Yes i have a co-pilot,I am still testing it out, but seems to work really well,will probably replace my ap2000's with them.
The reason for turning subtrim off would be so you can trim the heli without effecting the sensor.
I would check to see that you dont have any flight angles programmed in.Is your heli actually banked or just moving sideways.The copilot will only bring the heli to upright level,but it could still be moving with momentum.


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10-30-2009 10:12 AM
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AceBird
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Calibrate electrically.............?

Calibrating mechanically would be tipping the sensor as opposed to pressing a button or initializing a calibration by some electrical input. I don't know how the CPII initializes a calibration. I have used the FS8 and the AP2000i which has a calibration routine. I am sure the CPII has something similar.

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mastic
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yes I think it is momentum. it does get vertical but then it does seem to drift in the direction its traveling. no big deal its just if i fly in a field behind my house theres trees on both sides of me and a perfect vertical bailout would be awsome.

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