Imafanz New Heliman Location: New zealand
My Posts This: Topic Forum | Once is all said and done.Here's a suggestion that I think would settle this once and for all. Proof.
All arguments for or against aside let's ask NZ_Nitro, as he started this, to prove his case. NZ_Nitro, you are obviously obsessed with with this particular product being dangerous and want it removed from the market. Produce suitable evidence to substantiate your claims to make this a valid request. It appears you are sufficiently motivated to create a thread, nay, many threads, to wind people up about it so one must assume you are prepared to put the hard work in to prove your case. If not, you are simply blowing hot wind.
The putting forward of technical figures, as you have, sounds fantastic and those figures are pretty close to correct BUT, they are for centrifugal force on the rotor head and have no immediate relevance to your claims.
Produce statistical proof that this product is dangerous. i.e numbers of failures that can be attributed to the failure of the mechanics, what ever that might be, from being tethered against all other failures for any other reasons. Injury statistics, Engineering reports on the skids including screw holdings, failure points including skid/frame materials and all other parts of an RC helicopter that may be affected buy using this product. Build one, test it, make your own observations and note them. I'll even sell you one of mine at a reduced price so you can test the actual product you are campaigning against.
This has to be done in comparison with all other instances of failures and injuries with RC helicopters to be able to asses the risk of this particular product and use against anything else, even RC helicopters themselves. All these instances have to also be fully documented so that cause and effect for each instance can be identified.
To continue spouting hearsay, one off occurrences, personal opinions, beliefs and irrelevant figures doesn't sway me one bit. Do not accept so called 'experts' opinions as 'experts' can be wrong just as much as anyone else. Remember 'experts' once claimed the world was flat, they also claimed that the human body fell apart at 30mph when cars were first introduced to the market. Collect all the relevant information then come back and show us.
If you are not prepared to do this then your arguments mean nothing, your mission is flawed and it all doesn't mean as much to you as you claim.
If this product and it's operation is as you claim it should not be as hard as it sounds as all the information should be available now. I mean these have been used for many many years in one form or another. If this information is not available then one has to ask, why not? if it is so dangerous surely this information should be available by now.
If you can prove your case with all the relevant information, fair enough and I WILL remove the product from the market but if you can't/won't or the information shows you are wrong then the heading for this thread can be effected and an apology given, should you be man enough.
Are you up to it or is it not as important to you as you claim? Are you speaking truth or are you blowing hot air?
This is you chance to do this properly and do what you claim you are trying to do, protect all those newbies and every other RC helicopter enthusiasts from injury.
This will also enable everyone else to see that you are serious and not just stirring the pot or trying to effect a personal vendetta against me for some obscure reason. It will also enable others to make an informed decision.
So there we go, if you are serious it should be a challenge you will gladly meet head on. If not then one has to ask why you have started these threads in the first place and why you are making claims you really have no proof of other that personal opinion.
I would like to think you will take it up as starting one thread can be accepted but if you don't take up this challenge then by starting threads on all the major RC forums including butting into non related threads to incite movement against me and the product simply shows a a very vindictive person and a very nasty nature.
Up to you bud, here's your chance.
Phil, Imafanz |