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THX1138
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I am knee deep into the condor conversion. I have just installed the 11T pinion included in the kit and have found the gear mesh to be a little loose. The clutch bell and gear stack have bottomed out against the slots in the upper frame halves. The mesh is not that bad but this is my first gasser so I am not sure how to proceed.

Do I leave it as is or do I lengthen the slots so I can get a tighter gear mesh?

Lou

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10-26-2009 04:21 AM

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helicenter
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How many teeth on the main gear?

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10-26-2009 01:18 PM

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THX1138
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The stock unit. 88T I think.

Lou

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10-26-2009 02:36 PM

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helicenter
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I am trying to remember if the early condors had this issue, mine is an NX version and I had enough room to adjust it properly.

I see nothing wrong with opening up the slots to get a proper gear mesh.

let me know.

Doug

by the way is the metal bearing block with the slots limiting your travel ? ?

10-26-2009 05:45 PM

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AceBird
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lengthen the slots so I can get a tighter gear mesh?

Yes, you want to make the mesh correct so what ever it takes. Is the main gear larger? I don’t know how large Century goes but you shouldn’t be running the stock 88 gear.

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10-26-2009 05:54 PM

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helicenter
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I am curious why not run the stock gear?

I have been running my condor with stock gearing and the 810 blades, I have it setup for 13,14,& 1500 rpm that puts the Hanson Pro between 10,400 and 13,000 where it seems to run best. and the performance is great.

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10-26-2009 08:13 PM

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THX1138
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I too have a BH G26. The bearing blocks are metal but it is the slots in the frame that are the limiting factor. I will lengthen them tonight and readjust.

What about the HD clutch? I have the stock non NX clutch and bell. Should I change them as well?

Lou

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10-26-2009 09:04 PM

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I am curious why not run the stock gear?

Your right, I didn't run the numbers. When he said he was meshing a 11 tooth gear to lower the reduction I was thinking it would be better to increase the main rather than decrease the pinion.

Maybe Lou is trying to get a lower headspeed than 1500.

What gears come standard on the Condor kit anyway?

Ace
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10-26-2009 09:38 PM

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helicenter
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88/11 is standard gearing for the Condor.

As far as the HD clutch, I would probably use what you have unless you want to do some 3D stuff.

I do have the HD clutch and one piece fan if you want to make the change..

Doug

10-26-2009 11:12 PM

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THX1138
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This will be strictly an AP rig. I just want to get the most out of the machine and use as much of what I have on hand. I am about to sit down now and work the frame slots a little. It is very close and should not take a MM or two to bring it in.

Lou

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10-27-2009 01:28 AM

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What about the HD clutch? I have the stock non NX clutch and bell. Should I change them as well?

I think you might have to change the lower bearing block and fan hub to fit the S/HD clutch on the Predator but I'm not sure if that’s the case with the Condor, it's a far superior clutch and well worth changing

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10-27-2009 01:50 AM

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helicenter
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You may also want to take a good look at the tail drive gear, some have had some issues with it, does your tail boom xmission have two bolts or three?

Doug

10-27-2009 01:59 AM

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THX1138
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Gear mesh is all done. Feels much better now. It appears that my XMSN has three bolts that hold it in the upper frame.

Lou

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10-27-2009 02:23 AM

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If you have any more trouble, you may want to PM Bill Meador (billme) for advice. He is THE guru here for the Condors.

Xcal

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10-27-2009 05:19 AM

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THX1138
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Thanks for all the help guys!

Lou

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10-27-2009 10:48 AM

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AceBird
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