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e-E-Flite Blade MSR CP CX MCX 400-3D > Blade MSR Blade cp pro vs MSR
 
 
Tibo
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Location: Montréal Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hello, can someone tell me if the new MSR is anything like the (crapy) Blade CP pro? Let me explain... I bought a Blade cp pro for my neighbour and I tried to “dial it in”... ended up trashing it on the ground a few feet behind him (after buzzing him in the head...). Totally incontrollable tail and super jumpee collective and cyclic (I’ve been flying helis for 6 years...). My play time as been reduced a lot and been flying a MCX indoor to relax and it is flying pretty decently... but I need more challenge and I need a micro (indoor flying) to keep practicing advanced orientation exercises (nose and tail in remote circles, backward flying, spot landings...). Will the MSR let me down?
Thank you.
Tibo.
10-25-2009 10:39 PM
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Gyronut
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Location: Martinsville In.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Well...

The MSR is certainly no hot rod but is a great little bird.

It certainly is agile, but it is no 3D king in any respect.

I dont think its fair to compare it to a Pro however. Not the same class of heli.

Rick
10-26-2009 09:31 AM
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Tibo
Heliman
Location: Montréal Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Thanks’ Gyronut. You are correct, they are not in the same class. I was only trying to compare the two based on overall quality of flight.
Since I've tried the Cp pro and did not like it at all, I'm afraid to invest in the MSR and find out it is not as good as I would like it to...
10-26-2009 12:07 PM
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pseudonym
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I had a CP Pro2. It was the first heli I ever had. I almost gave up on the hobby because of it. It is now sitting in bits as a reminder that there is no such thing as cheap in Helis.

For an indoor bird I HIGHLY recommend the TREX 250SE with the following Cavets:

1) Get the RC Screwz Kit. The stock screws are made of cheese

2) Get the kit, not the ARF version. The AFR has those said screws torqued in much to tightly and they strip when you try to remove them. Kinda anoying when it comes time for repairs.

With those two things in mind, it is pretty much a dream. Stable, able to do 3d, and small enough you can hover it in your living room without much concern. Very very tough little guy as well and VERY stable to hover. Honestly easier and more stable to hover than my RJX X50. Very impressive bit of kit.

Not eflight, but I figured the 250 would be closer to the CP Pro2 than the MSR.

unspelling the world one misprint at a time.
10-26-2009 12:16 PM
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deafheliflyer
Key Veteran
Location: Arizona

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

+1

I fly it more than any of my other helis...

Crash-Prone and overcoming it!!!
10-26-2009 12:18 PM
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pseudonym
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Me too! it is actually my learning heli. The RJX seems to be a bit of a shelf queen due to one issue or another (it is new so she is still getting set up). I can say it gives one a bit more confidence to know that a crash with the 250 will only cost $20 =). For a beginner, that is a huge deal.

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10-26-2009 12:24 PM
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deafheliflyer
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Location: Arizona

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

try the black 3D blades from Helidirect, lighter than the stock white ones..


Oh Voy Flips on a dime and is insane with cyclics.

Crash-Prone and overcoming it!!!
10-26-2009 12:57 PM
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Tibo
Heliman
Location: Montréal Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		The Trex 250 is very nice... but isn't it a little big and expensive for buzzing around the living room?
10-26-2009 05:57 PM
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hbk2owner
Senior Heliman
Location: indianapolis, Indiana

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		the efite cp helis are crap! The blade msr is awsome! that little thing can crash and you stand it back up and take back off and it is fine! I say if you are going from a little heli of eflites and wanting to go to a bigger one from efite go straight to the blade 400.
10-26-2009 06:47 PM
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jrockstuart
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Location: Allen, Texas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
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1) Get the RC Screwz Kit. The stock screws are made of cheese

My RCScrewz kit didn't fit at all with my Trex 250.

The mSR is a great newbie helicopter.

MinAir Spectra-G
Trex 450Pro V-bar /Scorpion /JR
Wally Motors/New England Heli/DL Canopies
10-26-2009 08:21 PM
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pseudonym
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta

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The Trex 250 is very nice... but isn't it a little big and expensive for buzzing around the living room?

I don't think you would want to actually fly it around.. but for hovering and testing it is just fine. =)

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10-26-2009 08:45 PM
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TankDirt
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Location: Illinois

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		if your thing is in-house flying do NOT get the 250. for one it is very loud compared to the CP or MSR, its very dangerous to use indoors, it will for sure cause damage to anything you hit (and you will hit stuff)..However if your going to be flying outside its a much better choice over the others, and is fully 3D capable. And besides, how long is it going to take you to get bored just hovering a 250 in the middle of the room? I would say about 2 batteries.

The MSR is WAY more stable and WAY easier to fly than the CP. the MSR is as stable as the indoor co-ax helis and it flys around like a dream. It is the ultimate indoor heli. But it requires very little, to no wind to fly well. Its small enough so you can acctually have fun with it indoors, fly it around and stuff. As you already learned, the CP is not a good heli at all, and never will be.
10-26-2009 09:48 PM
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Tibo
Heliman
Location: Montréal Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		... yep, been sucked in by the MSR... it flew well... for 20 seconds...

I got the BNF version and was trimming it when my youngest passed by asking what was all that racket... and while chasing him away, it flew under a chair and I "stupidly" told myself 'dude, get it out backward and land it on the chair'... I broke the blade grips... At the least, I know it fly’s well...


BTW I've been flying t-rex 450's for 3 years. I can loop, roll, flip, stall turn, piro funnel(...) them all day but I can't imagine flying them inside... much less a smaller, less stable version of them...
they can and will act like a vacuum cleaner gone crazy, it will rip and shred everything and suck a large chunk of cash out of your pockets in damage to you, heli and house...
10-27-2009 03:55 AM
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dhc8guru
Senior Heliman
Location: Texas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I am the biggest blade CP hater. The day that Eflight takes that POS off the market the Heli community can rejoice! IMO even the coax heli's kind of suck. Skiding around in a hover is pretty lame. On that note I flew the MSR at my LHS and have to say it is pretty cool. It has amazing stability for its size. Witnessing other people pile it up, it took some good hits and didn't break. Compared to the Novice FP it has leaps and bounds better contol, its not mushey and you don't have to bang the sticks to get a response. I have been told it flys even better if you use a good radio rather than the game controller in the RTF. I would have to say its only downfall (if you want to call it that) is it can get moving in forward flight at a very fast pace. For a beginner this may not be such a good thing.I give it two thumbs up!
Eflight needs this to redeam themselves to the RC heli community and I think the MSR is the first step to this happening.
10-27-2009 06:20 PM
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TankDirt
Key Veteran
Location: Illinois

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Its the latest step I would say....I belive the only helis they made that were less than average in perfomace was the CP and CP pro..their newest CP is acceptable, unlike the others. E-Flight Has always been aimed twards beginners, and their helis are perfect for them. I would imagine if there was a poll more than most people who started flying less than 3 years ago started with E-Flight, and still own a e-flight heli.


think about it..for less than a well set-up 450 the beginner can have a co-ax to learn the hover, an MSR to get the basics, and a Blade 400 to make them perfect.,Not only that but they have a decent gyro (servos dont center very well, but are perfectly fine for beginners), and also a 2.4DX-6i..which can be used with most any heli they will every have in the future.


E-Flight might not make the best stuff for the pro 3D pilots, but damn if they didnt reach their goal of getting newbies into this wonderful hobby, and have it be enjoyable at the same time.

But thats just my opinion.
10-27-2009 10:17 PM
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jrockstuart
Elite Veteran
Location: Allen, Texas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I think the real fault with the mSR is that there is not sufficient tail control. But it is a good start and I am looking forward to the Blade mCP.

MinAir Spectra-G
Trex 450Pro V-bar /Scorpion /JR
Wally Motors/New England Heli/DL Canopies
10-27-2009 10:46 PM
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Tibo
Heliman
Location: Montréal Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I fixed the grip problem and flew two flights. Very nice I must say. It still fly like a FP heli but it is honest. It’s stable but not too much and it is reasonably accurately responsive (fly’s like a heli)... but way too much expo on the tail with the basic “game genre” controller. A little positive expo on the tail should fix that mid stick mush and, also, reducing it's rate should slow the piro up a little (hey, it look cool but not very useful having a piro rate that fast when precision is needed in a thigh spot...)My two cents.
I'm enjoying it so far...
10-28-2009 02:38 AM
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