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Radio - Futaba FASST > inconsistant piro rate? ON THE GY520!!!!? FOUND THE PROBLEM!
 
 
helidevil
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Location: ME

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		yes i have a gy520 on my trex 250, it holds like a bolder but the piro consistancy is horrific! theres no slop in the tail, or binding, or anything wrong with the mecanics, its setup in rate mode properly, and the piro consistancy is like the 401! a.k.a. it sucks!

any suggestions?

im using a JR x9303 with the gain at 23% in hh mode.

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10-24-2009 01:53 AM
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fenderstrat
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Location: Aston,Pa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		what do you mean by "it sucks" not fast enough,not consistent(changes with headspeed),one side faster than the other.be more specific

I read the title but more info would help

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10-24-2009 04:03 AM
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gundam641
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Location: yorba linda, ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		have you turned the end points up past 100%? Had the 401 and end points set to 120% and it was way way way too fast.
10-24-2009 04:26 AM
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outhouse
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Location: auburn ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		it would be your tuning skills lol

the fact its on the hardest tail to work with makes it a challenge doesnt it?

nothing wrong with the gyro bud
10-24-2009 04:28 AM
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Wingman77
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Location: Pulaski TN US

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		if the piro rate is inconsistant...TURN THE GAIN UP
10-24-2009 04:29 AM
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gundam641
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Location: yorba linda, ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		too much gain would cause the piro to slow down as well...
10-24-2009 04:31 AM
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Wingman77
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Location: Pulaski TN US

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too much gain would cause the piro to slow down as well...

dude what are you talking about?? you are just plain wrong and you are on the wrong subject anyway, fyi the subject is CONSISTANCY
10-24-2009 04:42 AM
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Markerbeacon
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Location: N.E. Iowa

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and the piro rate is like the 401! a.k.a. it sucks!

Not sure what that means, but on my setup with a 401 I've plenty of expo dialed in because at full stick the piro rate is absolutley insane!

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10-24-2009 04:43 AM
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gundam641
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Location: yorba linda, ca

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		never said anything about CONSISTANCY, just said it sucks
10-24-2009 04:43 AM
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Wingman77
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Location: Pulaski TN US

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		read the title
10-24-2009 04:43 AM
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helidevil
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Location: ME

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		no no no, its more like the 401, fast with the wind, slow comming around.(up into the wind/forward)

my d/r are as follows: high 100% low 88% +5 expo
in hh mode (using the travel as gain for 9303) 23%hh 20%rate (never use rate)

it holds like a rock, but when im doing piro-flips and stuff its sketchy

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10-24-2009 04:45 AM
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fenderstrat
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Location: Aston,Pa

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but on my setup with a 401 I've plenty of expo dialed in because at full stick the piro rate is absolutley insane!

expo only affects the stick near center,wont really affect full stick commands at all,if you want to slow it down(piro speed) EPA/ATV or some guys like D/R.

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10-24-2009 04:45 AM
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Wingman77
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Location: Pulaski TN US

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		guys he has clearly stated that the issue is not the piro speed but consistancy, what are you people not understanding about that?
10-24-2009 04:47 AM
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fenderstrat
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Location: Aston,Pa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		helidevil,have you re-checked your rate mode set up?,if this is off,sometimes you get the symptoms you are describing

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10-24-2009 04:49 AM
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Wingman77
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Location: Pulaski TN US

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		yup that could definitely do it, also check that you are getting full travel of the tail slider.
10-24-2009 04:52 AM
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Duck Head
Senior Heliman
Location: Portland, OR USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Change mode from either f3c or 3d to the other and try it. Some buddies were having the same problem with their 700's and they changed there flight mode and it fixed it. I believe you will need the usb to do this.

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10-24-2009 05:31 AM
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fenderstrat
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Location: Aston,Pa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		you can switch from 3D mode to F3C on the gyro itself no usb needed

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Markerbeacon
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Location: N.E. Iowa

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guys he has clearly stated that the issue is not the piro speed but consistancy, what are you people not understanding about that?

Here's from his post...

it holds like a bolder but the piro rate is horrific!

I'm not sure anything is CLEARLY stated, but rate means units over time. Such as feet per minute, beats per minute, etc. In other words, speed. So, is it spinning faster at times and slower at other times?


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expo only affects the stick near center,wont really affect full stick commands at all,if you want to slow it down(piro speed) EPA/ATV or some guys like D/R

Yes, I know. That's why I have a fair amount of expo dialed. I like insane piro rates. I also like to be able to control my tail when I want nice precise slow manuvers. And I've never really cared for dual rates.
10-24-2009 11:13 AM
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nivlek
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Location: Norfolk England

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Check the damned title of the thread !!!!!!

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10-24-2009 12:19 PM
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PJRono
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Location: Land of 10,000+ Mosquitos!

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Do your Dual rates go higher than 100%? Most Tx do, if so max out the slower direction and adjust the other direction to match the slower.

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10-24-2009 01:07 PM
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