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norsman
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Location: paradise PA

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Who's got them,what do you have and are they worth it ????
10-20-2009 03:14 AM
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Elgreco
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Absolutely worth it !

Can not do without one...

Switchglo is perfect for me. I just can't stand anymore the glow ignitors. Misplaced...uncharged...some don't fit with canopy on....just hate them.

My opinion that is..

Trex450SE, Trex 500 ESP, Vibe 50, Trex 700 /X9303
10-20-2009 03:33 AM
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Dood
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Unless youve got a helicopter in a fuselage, I think onboard glow igniters are a pretty lame idea

I wouldn't put one on my helicopter if it were given to me.

3 years is enough time wasted. Taking a break for a while.
10-20-2009 03:33 AM
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norsman
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I dont have one but ,if you had one why wouldn't you use it ???
10-20-2009 03:37 AM
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Dood
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... but for some reason they're quite popular amongst the noobie crowd. Thats true with all new gadgets. Eventually all fads die and people go back to a minimalistic approach.

3 years is enough time wasted. Taking a break for a while.
10-20-2009 03:39 AM
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finnegan
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Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

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Switchglo rules!!!
Once you use them you will never want to go back to a stick.
It's just way more convenient.
10-20-2009 03:45 AM
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Elgreco
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Dood, I am surprised you think like that. No offense meant.

But what's wrong with them ? It's not a newbie thing. It's the convenience. Why have to worry about one more thing to have around to start your heli ?

As I said, it's the best thing I have on my heli. Never I have to worry about a glow starter and also I have the audible telling me that I get power to the plug. If it goes dead, then you know it's probably your plug.

To each its own I guess but his thing I can't part with. Last week I was waiting for another switchglo to arrive after I had one for some reason go bad, and f$%^ing flew my 700 twice with the glo starter still on it, hidden under the canopy

Force of habit I guess.

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10-20-2009 03:45 AM
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norsman
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Well I've been flying since 95 and have seen em on planes all over the place ,now I'm tired of remote glow wires taking $hits and drivers going dead.Its time for me
10-20-2009 03:46 AM
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norsman
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What about the Align regulator one ,any body use it ??
10-20-2009 03:47 AM
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Elgreco
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Have tried it and switched.A lot of people use it, but as finnegan said, once I tried the switchglo, I won't have anything else.

Also it could be the fact that I just don't trust the align electronics. I hear some people had them fail on them...?

Trex450SE, Trex 500 ESP, Vibe 50, Trex 700 /X9303
10-20-2009 03:52 AM
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norsman
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Your right about that ,it's just not going to happen in flight with a glow driver.The new switchglow pro is 65 bucks,the aligh one is 58.00....
10-20-2009 04:00 AM
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red_z06
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... but for some reason they're quite popular amongst the noobie crowd. Thats true with all new gadgets. Eventually all fads die and people go back to a minimalistic approach.

We are one of those newbies.
Never having to constantly charge those pesky glow ignitors and sometimes leaving them on for the whole flight (without losing them) are priceless. Set to come on low throttle is a hot start proof and beep works as a continuity checker plus downed heli locator in corn fields.



DOOD

You need to do your thang here.

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...1/?p=4521941#RR

www.JustinJee.com
10-20-2009 04:12 AM
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norsman
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So tell me, what does justin fly switchglow???
10-20-2009 04:16 AM
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jschenck
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I have had so many remote glow drivers break on me that the Align 2-1 has actually saved me money. I have one of the original V1 style that is still running well on my Raptor-50. It's great because I can hit the button to keep juice on the plug as I walk it out the flight line, doesn't take long to get used to having it. I've been using the 'take the canopy off' method on my Vision all summer long, hate it - also hate broken glow plug extensions, they seem to break where they go into the fake glow plug end.

I did get a QUK plug extension for my Trex-700. I'm going to give this one a try for a while and see how long it lasts. It uses an RCA style plug instead of the typical fake glow plug connection type. It's a pain to remember the adapter but if it lasts it might be worth it. If this fails I will put a switch-glow on it. Two reasons I don't have the Align 2-1 on here - 1. I'm running straight A123 so no need for a regualtor. 2. I really like the 2-1 for my 50 but just don't quite trust it for my 90.

.. P-gas, T700, V50c/u, R50T, T4/250 and a Cricket ..
10-20-2009 04:22 AM
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norsman
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I see ,the swithhglow does just that glow.The align reg also powers the servos and Rx,that can suck if that go'e.I'm putting it on a Raptor 50,theres not much difference in money between them.....
10-20-2009 04:27 AM
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jschenck
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My Titan with the 2-1 mounted. I have landed on zip-tie'ing the switch assembly on the landing gear skid with some double sided foam tape under it. It's convenient to get to and I can see the battery led indicators clearly there.



.. P-gas, T700, V50c/u, R50T, T4/250 and a Cricket ..
10-20-2009 04:33 AM
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Dood
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I think it's funny how things work in this hobby.

Take these new gyros, for example.

"It's so small and compact, and not having the extra amplifier onboard is so nice. Plus I don't have all those extra wires running all over the place. And I'm saving a lot of weight"

Then these receivers with built in regulators and governors.

"It's nice because everything I need is right here. I don't need a separate governor, and this sure cuts down on the extra wires running all over the place. And I'm saving a lot of weight"


Then all these new helicopters.

"I love this helicopter because it weighs X grams/ ounces less than it's closest competitor"



Then they go and add some expensive gadget that adds to extra wiring and weight on the helicopter.

This sort of thing makes no sense because it goes against everything else they say.

If you own 3 or 4 helicopters, in order to justify using an onboard glow you need one on all of them. That can get downright pricey.

The cost of 4 switchglow devices is fuel for an entire summer for a lot of people.

3 years is enough time wasted. Taking a break for a while.
10-20-2009 05:03 AM
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JasonJ
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I love my Align 2-in-1, and I am no noob. I did solder in a good switch because of the switch issue the 2-in-1 is known for just in case. I really like just being able to push a button, start my helicopter and do my thing. If people want to fritter-fart with glow igniters, more power to them. I watch the old timers screw with those damn things, trying to start their airplanes. They'll get it going, it'll stall, then they'll try to start it again but forget to put the igniter back on. Just extra crap to lose or forget.

Someone said "minimalist". What is minimalist about carrying extra crap? It's right up there with having the battery, power panel, starter with banana clips, all that "extra crap". Me, I can pull out my Align starter, push a button on the 2-in-1, start it, flyin' time! Heck, I am more minimalist if that is what is sought. My field box consists of fuel, a manual pump, my Align starter, a glow wrench, and a couple of hex wrenches. I have a manual pump for my fuel. I watch people use their electric fuel pumps, they are slow. I can fill my tank in half the time. Heck, I can gravity fill a tank in the time it takes some electric pumps to fill a tank. I have no idea why people use electric fuel pumps. Is it THAT hard to turn a handle?

Now I am sure three people will have commentary on how awesome their electric fuel pump is, and that it was the best $100 they ever spent. Well, I'd rather spend that money on fuel personally, but whatever. Or maybe they'll say that the manual pumps seize up and break. Well, there is a little hex screw you can adjust if it gets stiff, rather than just breaking the handle off.

So some people buy $100 fuel pumps, other people buy onboard glow, It's a hobby. Getting to play with whatever toys you want to is what makes it fun...
10-20-2009 05:03 AM
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jschenck
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Eventually all fads die and people go back to a minimalistic approach.
Yeah -- which explains why everyone is tossing their gyros and governors.

hey, I'm going to build a Cricket that'll resemble that remark (at least the gov. part )
- really, I already have the kit. Once my basement project is done ...

.. P-gas, T700, V50c/u, R50T, T4/250 and a Cricket ..
10-20-2009 05:14 AM
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Sonic88
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I know a few guys who are certainly not "noobies" that have been flying for 15+ years and the all use the Align 2in1 remote glo. With the 2in1 is is just an extra switch and a couple wires as it is contained in the regulator housing. I have had no problems with mine. They just work and thats all I want.

Also, not having to remove the canopy each flight saves on canopy wear. At least in my case. If I had to take it off every flight, the grommets would wear out much faster.

I guess I am biased b/c when I started, I started with 2in1. So, its not really matter of converting over. Its just wear I started.

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10-20-2009 05:37 AM
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