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Smithprod
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As I stated earler..If I rebuild then dual nihms and dual switches.

Dual batts and switches has worked perfect on my gas camera ships for many years.

Brad
10-15-2009 03:23 PM
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rbort
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Location: Franklin, MA - U.S.A.

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I agree

Nothing wrong with redundancy on these large models. Ever since I put redundant power in my heli, the power system reliability has been a non-issue.

-=>Raja.

1005 Gasser, G26 3DMax++, 2205+ flights
Spectra-g, G26 3DMax, 870+ flights
10-15-2009 03:27 PM
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Rick_H
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Location: Boulder City, Nevada

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Check you regulator switch, See this post from Run Lund http://www.ronlund.com/align_2_in_1_regulator_fix.htm

Rick
10-15-2009 03:47 PM
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shawmcky
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Location: Isle of Wight,United Kingdom

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Had a problem with a new Align regulator

and it cost me a brand new JR 770 gyro,never again.

Team- unbiased opinion,no experts here just trying to help thats all.K.I.S.S principle upheld here
10-15-2009 07:26 PM
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cmartin
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Location: Kouts IN

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Ditch the lipos and go to something more dependable.
10-17-2009 09:01 PM
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Blade_Master1
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Location: Canada

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I say ditch the fancy switches and use the plug as your on/off button

your lipo plugs into a BEC or REG !? on mine it is direct from the BEC

I use a 2-6S BEC 5 amp -7amp max and run a 3 cell 1350 mah for my application
I have the BEC set 6V
12V supply 6V out, I use 200~250 mah per 12 min flight
Not bad

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NX Pro
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Swift 550
10-17-2009 11:20 PM
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pgkevet
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Location: surrey UK

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I can be wise after the event too.

Simple truth is that there is no way to avoid these risks. You can reduce them by using duplicate power sources..you can even use duplicate rx's. You can tape, tie, lock junctions. You can preflight until you go dizzy.. all you do is REDUCE the risk.

Every solder joint, every switch, every regulator can fail. Every servo and every wire can short out and screw your power draw. The fewer your junctions the better.

I still haven't found the cause..but then i haven't taken the thing apart yet. Everything was braided or spiralled. Personally I've found the latest 2:1 regulator fault free on my nitro.. but that doesn't vibrate at the same frequencies.. but has fallen out of the sky because servo splines jumped.

Yes, I shall install duplicate power source here.. But it'll only reduce the risk. I'll still have a heavy dog of a machine with crappy quality century parts that constantly need checking and monitoring for wear and alignment. It's fine if you start out as an expert pilot or never push yourself or risk a ding or enjoy spending your time with a heli on a bench. Even changing a feathering spindle on one of these can involve polishing the brown patina and sanding the plastic ball to get the thing in there (and probably glueing it back on once or twice)... I've done all this often enough now..

On my trex helis the parts costs are cheap enough that anything dodgy just gets swapped out.. and the new bits actually fit and look clean.

pgk
10-18-2009 07:11 AM
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predatorman
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Location: Falkland Islands

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Its bad luck when things crap out for no real reason. I have flown quite a few hours with the Predator now...last crash was a tail servo failing. Still in the process of repairs.

It does leave you questioning a few things, true you can throw all kinds of 'failsafes' at your machine; but the truth is it can still bite you. You only have to have a failure within your radio and your heli is in trouble.

The parts we use are not part of some stringent quality control check. Sure the major suppliers/manufacturers have some form of quality control but there is no covering approval body akin to the CAA or FAA that oversees these things. Thats the risk we run.

I hear what you say about the Trex thing, the times I have had a crash and thought 'wtf am I doing?' these gassers are expensive. Turbines put the potential costs even higher...should the turbine get damaged.

Think I will take up model yachts instead

Quality takes........time!
10-18-2009 04:44 PM
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turboomni
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Think I will take up model yachts instead


Don't forget the LIFEBOATS!!!!

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly better than I can pilot them
10-19-2009 04:49 AM
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Excalibur
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Turbines put the potential costs even higher...should the turbine get damaged.

Ironically, I think it's mostly the high-vibration environment in a Gasser that causes 90% of the problems. A turbine is silky smooth and doesn't stress electrical and mechanical components nearly as much. It would probably fly a lot longer with a lot less maintenance than a Gasser, and have a lot less problems setting up and getting it flying. Too bad turbines are just plain too expensive to be a viable option for most people, including me.

Xcal

Camper Fuel: It's Not Just for Breakfast Anymore
10-19-2009 05:32 AM
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