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1stPlace
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Einstein says he does!



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10-08-2009 03:17 PM
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1stPlace
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The human mind can conceive the existence of God, just as the earth worm can conceive of human existence.

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10-08-2009 03:22 PM
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shawmcky
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Was that

actual film Fox news of the day?

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10-08-2009 03:30 PM
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1stPlace
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Was that actual film?

No, just an interesting skit.

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Fox news of the day?

No. Einsteins thoughts on God are well documented. You should check them out. Especially, if you're going to come into my thread and mock Fox News on a completely unrelated topic.

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10-08-2009 03:42 PM
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SSN Pru
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No!

And if you believe he does then you are dumb!

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!
10-08-2009 03:50 PM
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husky385
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No!

And if you believe he does then you are dumb!


Opinions are like a**holes everybody's got one.
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10-08-2009 04:00 PM
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1stPlace
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And if you believe he does then you are dumb!

Alright Pru... You're smarter than Einstein.

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10-08-2009 04:01 PM
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just a notion concieved to keep society from collapsing

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10-08-2009 04:05 PM
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1stPlace
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just a notion concieved to keep society from collapsing

Nope, that would be religion...

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10-08-2009 04:09 PM
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flyboy907
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my bad, you get my point lol

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10-08-2009 04:10 PM
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husky385
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just a notion concieved to keep society from collapsing

I agree with that.
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Nope, that would be religion...


And that.
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10-08-2009 04:11 PM
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GimbalFan
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Does God Exist?
Only within the uninformed imaginations of the misguided.

In reality? Of course not.

And like a lot of public figures throughout history, Einstein said a lot of things in public that he contradicted in private (via letters to friends, etc).

Why? Because one of the most socially destructive byproducts of the insanity of organized religion is that if you're seen to be 'going against the grain', then research funds and/or access to top-notch facilities can mysteriously dry up.

Other 'penalties' are common for other high-profile walks of life. This asinine brand of religious suppression occurred with a 'heavier hand' decades ago more than it does today, but it's still a big problem for public figures. Progress ahead against such suppression is usually two steps forward, one step back.

Many of America's Founding Fathers operated the same way, as evidenced (again) by private letters and journals discovered long after their deaths.

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10-08-2009 04:16 PM
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1stPlace
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And like a lot of public figures throughout history, Einstein said a lot of things in public that he contradicted in private (via letters to friends, etc).

Any evidence of those "private letters"? Einstein was blasted by most religious scholars because his idea of God did not agree with theirs.

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10-08-2009 04:20 PM
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GimbalFan
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I'll dig up the links to some of his quotes (and a few from other surprising sources too) after I get back from the field. I've got a new bird to maiden today, and the weather is divine.

Here's a few to get you started, with references easy to verify:

"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."

-- Albert Einstein, as quoted in his obituary by the New York Times, 19 April 1955

"I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it."

-- Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

-- Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930

"It was the experience of mystery -- even if mixed with fear -- that engendered religion."

-- Albert Einstein (source unknown)

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10-08-2009 04:22 PM
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shawmcky
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I do not believe in the immortality of the individual/Einstein

but i personally believe we are put here to have the children and our genes will have a certain immortality as long as there are children and grand children.That in my belief is as far as my immortality goes,but then that is just my belief,dont be contaminated by it.Einstein was also pretty adept when he said man knows right from wrong and does not need "divine"guidance I.M.H.O

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10-08-2009 04:53 PM
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husky385
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God exists to a Christian. God douse not exist to a non believer. So what is the problem? Why should any body tell any body what to believe.
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10-08-2009 04:58 PM
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1stPlace
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Here's a few to get you started though, with references easy to verify:

Wow Gimbal! It's not often you will take the time to provide references, or even an argument! Thank you very much.

However, I still don't see one where Einstein denies the existence of God, only a denial of popular religious beliefs.

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10-08-2009 05:03 PM
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Can't believe this is actually a question........

If we evolved from APES, then whey are there still apes on the planet???

Quick...here comes my wife....hide that new Heli !!!!
10-08-2009 05:03 PM
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shawmcky
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Right no problem

A good man can live a good life with his god or without,no argument there.

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10-08-2009 05:05 PM
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It's not often you will take the time to provide references, or even an argument! Thank you very much.
You're welcome. Some are more worthy of intelligent interaction than others.

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However, I still don't see one where Einstein denies the existence of God, only a denial of classic religious beliefs.
Even privately he usually was somewhat reserved, but I find no ambiguity with many of his verifiable quotes, including this one, and others I'll try to find later.
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"I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it." - Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side

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10-08-2009 05:08 PM
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