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Gasser Model RC Helicopters > Radikal G20
 
 
tweav
Heliman
Location: Gettysburg , Pa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum

Chuck I think you'll find it's just about the same overall size as a 600 trex but wieghs a little more . It might be what your looking for but think it's still going to be a little bigger then what you want. I'm guessing it will be like 12 lbs rtf.
10-11-2009 03:03 AM
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oldfart
Elite Veteran
Location: Vancouver, Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Teave, I doubt it will come anywhere near 12 lbs. Heck, my big G231 powered Predator with 720 blades only weighs a bit over 12 lbs, ready to fly (less fuel of course).
10-11-2009 03:41 AM
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tweav
Heliman
Location: Gettysburg , Pa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I don't see anything about it that would make it loose much weight. the engine will weigh about the same . the chassis will be a few oz. lighter along with the blades but that's about it I figure about a pound my predator wieghs a little over 13.6 lbs ready to fly. so I'm guessing like 12 ready

my trex 600 wieghs like 10 lbs
10-11-2009 05:30 AM
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CNCjunkie
Senior Heliman
Location: Kauai (The Garden Isle), Hawaii - USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		According to the specs on this gasser, the weight comes in at 4500 grams dry with electronics and engine. Just under 10 lbs.

Full specs are here http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t545284p1/

Just another crappy day in Paradise....Aloha!
10-11-2009 06:00 AM
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jrockstuart
Elite Veteran
Location: Allen, Texas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I wonder how much power a modified 20cc can put out?

MinAir Spectra-G
Trex 450Pro V-bar /Scorpion /JR
Wally Motors/New England Heli/DL Canopies
10-11-2009 06:36 AM
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SeismicCWave
Veteran
Location: Hilo, Hawaii

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		>>I wonder how much power a modified 20cc can put out?<<

My guess is that it is something like the OS .70 glow fuel 2 stroke heli engine. The vibration will be a bit more because of the larger displacement.
10-11-2009 07:43 AM
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pgkevet
Key Veteran
Location: surrey UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Trex 600 flying weight is 3Kg (http://www.trendtimes.com/trex-600-...helicopter.html)
OS 50 hyper = 1.9HP (http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg1951.html)
zenoah 20ei = 1.7HP (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Product...ProdID=ZENE20EI) with a weight of about an extra 1.3KG with extra muffler weight... so modified might get to the power of a .60 for an extra weight penalty of 1.5Kg

..so at best your flying a 600 with a brick tied to the skids.. but saving fuel cost. If the torque is there then stick 620 or 650 blades on for lift...but you can't lose the mass.

pgk
10-11-2009 08:13 AM
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the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		why so serious


well, like the larger 23cc/26cc Gasoline helis I don't think people will be buying the G20 because it's a super hot 3D'ing heli,,
they will be buying it for what it is,, a cool little gasoline heli that brings something different to the hobby !!

Jim
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10-11-2009 08:45 AM
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darksidedave
Senior Heliman
Location: niles,MI

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		How can a 600N weigh 10lb unless setup for AP or streached to 700 size?
My 600N's weigh around 7.5lb...

Century says the tuned muffler bumps the HP to 2.4 ,
with a modified engine we might see close to 3HP???

10lb with 640 or 660 blades would be pretty good I think ,
if it has the power to maintain the headspeed when you give it a big pull

Last time I checked , HC was testing some SWE 640's on his Velocity 56
10-11-2009 01:03 PM
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smallplanes
Key Veteran
Location: Timmonsville,S.C. ,USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Did you see there offering it wit a 20ccEI motor? Everybody said my 26ccEI was no good with EI and now there putting it on a gasser?




Thanks and take a look

Spectra G 26cc
Jewel
2 Evo 50's
3 Trex 450's
Trex 700
Raptor50
12Z
10-11-2009 04:54 PM
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jrockstuart
Elite Veteran
Location: Allen, Texas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		The EI motor lacks the flywheel, and the flywheel helps to dampen vibration.

MinAir Spectra-G
Trex 450Pro V-bar /Scorpion /JR
Wally Motors/New England Heli/DL Canopies
10-11-2009 04:58 PM
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smallplanes
Key Veteran
Location: Timmonsville,S.C. ,USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I do know that now but why are they going to sell one of there kits wit the EI motor?



Thanks

Spectra G 26cc
Jewel
2 Evo 50's
3 Trex 450's
Trex 700
Raptor50
12Z
10-11-2009 05:12 PM
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Fixit
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I ran the 20cc in a 600 conversion for months and so have other people on RR and the lack of a flywheel didn't cause any problems at all, the 600 flew very well with 680 blades and the only thing I didn’t like about the heli was having to charge two packs, I sold it to raze funds for the 700 conversion but I regret not having it now.

Any problems with the 20cc they might be having could be down to the airframe design, engine mounting and so on.

I only like to fly gassed up
10-11-2009 05:30 PM
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the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		well I will be running the Gasoline/Glow mix in mine with an OS F glow plug (see the link) with 660 size blades, I will have more power with less weight

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8009384/tm.htm

Jim
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10-11-2009 11:11 PM
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jrockstuart
Elite Veteran
Location: Allen, Texas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I just don't understand why anyone would want to do this. You get the worst of both worlds. A heavy, underpowered engine which uses expensive fuel and makes a slime trail everywhere it goes.

MinAir Spectra-G
Trex 450Pro V-bar /Scorpion /JR
Wally Motors/New England Heli/DL Canopies
10-11-2009 11:56 PM
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Fixit
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Maybe it’s worth the effort for planks because of the weight saving plus planks are easier to wipe down

I only like to fly gassed up
10-12-2009 12:06 AM
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Blade_Master1
Elite Veteran
Location: Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		So what is the best or better ignition system for this heli ?



F-27
MSR
Terminator Raven
NX Pro
Raven50
K50
HawkPro(~rip)
Swift 550
10-12-2009 12:11 AM
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CNCjunkie
Senior Heliman
Location: Kauai (The Garden Isle), Hawaii - USA

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well I will be running the Gasoline/Glow mix in mine with an OS F glow plug (see the link) with 660 size blades, I will have more power with less weight

Good luck with that dude.

Please be sure to post all your results. Good or Bad...

Just another crappy day in Paradise....Aloha!
10-12-2009 12:25 AM
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the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		""So what is the best or better ignition system for this heli ?""

well I would think the Electronic Ignition would have Spark Advance that would create a bit more power than the Magneto..


""Please be sure to post all your results""

sure will

Jim
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10-12-2009 06:16 AM
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the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		""You get the worst of both worlds""

not at all !!
A) the heli would be lighter with more power, lighter because you would have no Ignition & no Ignition Battery and more power because you would be burning Alcohol,,

B) you would not leave a slime trail because once mixed with Gasoline you would be using somewhere around 13% less oil per-gallon than a Glow Engine uses,,

C) yes the Gasoline/Glow Mix would cost more per-gallon than straight Gasoline but still the Zenoah would burn much less fuel than an OS 50 and much much less than an OS 70..

Jim
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10-12-2009 06:35 AM
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