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buzzsaw
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Location: Louisiana

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Oh,I love me nitro lad!They leave such a nice presentation for the judging staff ole chap!Good show,Good show ole boy!
10-03-2009 04:05 AM
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FlyingHigh450
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Location: Macomb,Mi

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		LOL buzzsaw .

Trex 600N/hyper 50/MP5, Revmax,Spartan DS760/JR DS8900G,3 Align DS610's.
10-03-2009 04:09 AM
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broggyr
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Location: Naugy, CT

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Gasser. Uses pump gas and oil mix, like a flying weed-whacker or chainsaw. While inverted, it can also be used for trimming the lawn too, so the wife won't get mad

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irony [ay-ruh-nee', ay-er-nee'] adj.: Like goldy or bronzy, except made of iron
10-03-2009 05:01 AM
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joshyboy
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Location: gainesville,FL-U.S

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		nitro future

i think the big thing for me is power. i when out and bought my first nitro a few years back thinking it would give me the most power. dont think thats the case. my buddy whos the best heli flyer intown said to me that electric will acually give most power with least bog issues. surprised me but i think hes right. pretty sure the the modern electric engines are going to out perform old school combustion type engine. fastest car in the world thease days is electric. power to rate ratios are fantastic . i think electric is def the way of the future. batt technology will be getting better as well

my two cents on it
10-03-2009 05:52 AM
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Chucky777
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Location: La Porte, Texas

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I was at the Southern Rotory Classic a couple weeks ago. And the Castle Creation team had this Heli out there, that was out off this world. They claimed it had over 10hp in it. That thing was all over the sky. and was not bogging one bit. The only thing holding me back from converting is the cost to convert everything. I got so much nitro stuff right now. the only way I could go electric is to sell everything and buy used.

Charlie

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10-03-2009 06:04 AM
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yzchopper
Senior Heliman
Location: Basin City, Washington USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Joshyboy,
Are you sure about this
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fastest car in the world thease days is electric.
I thought this was the fastest production car in the world


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October 9, 2007
Official! The SSC Ultimate Aero's record is validated by Guinness World RecordsTM

September 13, 2007
SSC Ultimate Aero breaks production car world speed record.
Here is their website www.sscautos.com . You should check them out. The Shelby brothers who developed the car are local to me and a great bunch. I hear they are working on an electric or hybrid. The nice thing about this car though, is it is all American made scratch built all by hand including the 1194 Hp V8 engine. Back to the original topic. It's all about the nitro for me. Don't think I would ever go electric unless the technology improves a lot.

Steve

People Fly Planes Pilots Fly Helicopters
10-03-2009 07:00 AM
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Matt Wright
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Location: Harare Zimbabwe

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Maybe in the futre we will have some other energy scource like running off hydrogen or something......???

If you go down...... Go down having fun
10-03-2009 08:02 AM
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Aaron29
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Location: Bossier City, LA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I think power is already fine with electrics. I'd like to see the next advances lean a little toward endurance.

In other words, from where we stand right now, I don't want to see any more power. I want to see more time. I'd take 50% more time before I'd take twice the power.

As for nitro, if the prices don't go down I may not buy another one. And A LOT of people are thinking this way. Nitro is in trouble, regardless of what people think. It may not go away, but it might become a relic like diesel model engines. Consider what is happening in the airplane world.

I'd love to see what percentage of new models are electric.

-Aaron
10-03-2009 08:10 AM
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Ace Dude
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Location: USA

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im saying in 5-7 years what are predictions. will we see 50-60 bucks a gallon?

No offense, but you can't actually be serious about anyone actually knowing what's going to happen with Nitro fuel prices in the next 5-7 years. Even the Nitro fuel manufacturers don't have a clue what's going to happen in 5-7 years. Heck, even the multi-billion dollar oil giants with billions of research dollars can't predict the future.

The only thing certain in life is death and taxes.



10-03-2009 10:57 AM
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bopshi
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Location: greenport ny

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		noise factor

Unfortunutly for me the noise factor dictates for me that the next heli I buy will be electric. Been kicked out of 6 places over 20 years because of noise. I should have bought electric instead of my Trx nitro pro, that thing is too thirsty anyway. When I bought it no one was complaing about noise now they r. anyone wanna trade for Logo 500 or swift with batteries to make up price difference?
10-03-2009 11:35 AM
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MartyH
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Location: Cincinnati

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Nitromethane is used in pharmacuticals and other industrial applications. It will be around for years and will always have a cost associated with it. Sometimes up, sometimes down. But, it's not likely to price us out of the hobby. I think you are worrying about nothing. Divide the cost of fuel per gallon into flights. Now compare what it costs to spend an afternoon flying your heli to any other hobby activity. Now forget all that and go fly and enjoy yourself. Its not an expensive hobby by any stretch.

Marty,
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10-03-2009 12:06 PM
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holzback
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Location: noblesville IN United States

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Sometimes up, sometimes down. But, it's not likely to price us out of the hobby

well it has gone up and never went back down.

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But, it's not likely to price us out of the hobby.

it will never prive everyone out, but it has already priced a lot out. maybe you only fly on the weekends, for the next 2 weeks go fly 5 out the 7 days for an hour. burn a couple gallons in a week, practice, practice, practice. my point is the only way to get good is to burn fuel, which will cost 100 bucks every 2 weeks and that is only 3 gallons around here.

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I think you are worrying about nothing

that is why it went up 10 bucks and never went back down? i figured by now, my area would have went back down.

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Now compare what it costs to spend an afternoon flying your heli to any other hobby activity
30 bucks a gallon that is about 5 bucks for a 90 a flight, and about 4 a flight for a 50.

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Its not an expensive hobby by any stretch.
completely false!!!! if you fly after work , then it is going to cost a lot. that is not counting other fees to play.

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10-03-2009 02:19 PM
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Mutt
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Location: M ca usa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		If people are going to worry and whine about prices of nitro etc they are in the wrong hobby. I will always fly my nitro and gassers I will not ever go electric.
10-03-2009 02:20 PM
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Mutt
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Location: M ca usa

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well it has gone up and never went back down
It went up here and went back down but not as low as it was it is average about 5 bucks per gallon higher now except for the airplane fuel its all down to where it was before the nitro hikes kicked in here in my area.
10-03-2009 02:23 PM
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norsman
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Location: paradise PA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I was flying 20% coolpower at 22 bucks a gallen,went to my LHS and now it's 26 bucks.But they got in a new blend Omega 15% for 13 dollars and I'll tell you, a few clicks in and I'm loven 15%
10-03-2009 02:27 PM
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holzback
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Location: noblesville IN United States

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If people are going to worry and whine about prices of nitro etc they are in the wrong hobby

maybe if you burned a lot of fuel you would understand

the average income cannot support the many many many many flights it takes to be a great pilot, average yes, but great, no.

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10-03-2009 02:34 PM
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J Kofoed
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Location: Denmark

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I wanted to fly electric, if the flight times could be at least 10 minutes.
I fly about 12 minutes with my T700 (OS91HZ) and approximately 13 min with Century Raven 50 (OS55HZ).

Best regards Jesper Kofoed
10-03-2009 03:10 PM
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FlyingHigh450
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Location: Macomb,Mi

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		If electrics could hold the same power for 7-8 mins through the whole flight like a nitro does which will never happen,I would still fly nitro LOL.

Trex 600N/hyper 50/MP5, Revmax,Spartan DS760/JR DS8900G,3 Align DS610's.
10-03-2009 03:36 PM
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junkpilot
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Location: Summer/Alamogordo N.M. ,Winters/ Tucson

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		5-7 years

Batteries still have a long way to go! When is the last time you read an article about somebodys home cacthing fire because he had a jug of fuel stored under the shelf?
Junkpilot

When you fly JUNK it's hard to tell when you've crashed!
10-03-2009 03:40 PM
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Ace Dude
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Location: USA

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maybe if you burned a lot of fuel you would understand

the average income cannot support the many many many many flights it takes to be a great pilot, average yes, but great, no.

Maybe if you evaluated the cost of the hobby before you entered it you could adequately match your flying to your budget.

If you can't afford to fly what you want then that's a personal personal problem.



10-03-2009 04:16 PM
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