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PistaJ
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Hi
The unit is now ready with the features I promised.
You can rotate your pano mount while taking pictures using only one channel initiated by a short press on a spring switch.
The mount does its job while you concentrate on hovering at the same spot.
I have no idea how many people would like to have it, but I will start making three pano controllers to have them ready. Let me know.
The magnet version is postponed – I am happy with the switches. Magnets might interfere with the magneto of gassers.
How ever once the magnet switches are made and tested even on the gassers, there would be no need to do anything more than change the switch set for the magnet set.
I just need a little time to do it.
10-13-2009 04:53 PM
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PhotoShip One
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We'll take one now and perhaps a batch of 25 once we test. I'll send you a PM.

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10-13-2009 05:10 PM
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rerazor
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We'll take one now and perhaps a batch of 25 once we test.

Once tested I want first dibs of one of the 25.

Robert
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10-13-2009 07:07 PM
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PistaJ
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Hi Photo Ship One
I confirm receiving payment of $292.
For you and the others who are in contact with me on my E-mail I am sending a video of the Pano Controller upgrade:
It is version 1.3 and it is what you are getting for the payment.

See the release servo arm in the red box:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Andrita...u/0/h20jYvhjtzE
10-15-2009 10:44 AM
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AirFoilAviation
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I have a question. I received your email about what you are trying to sell but have no idea what it actually does? What wires tangle? We use one switch and one channel now to shoot spherical's. Just using a standard Y connector you can shoot and rotate at the same time. On the AF mount it doesn't matter where the rotation ends for landing the foot print is always the same.

You do understand in PTgui you can just load a batch of pics and then the program will stitch how ever many pano's it can match up. Generally for us using the Cannon T1I we just use the first 7 pics from every rotation. Is it the fact you can hit the switch and then release it and the mount keeps going? We just use the gear switch and let the mount rotate twice.

What am I missing? What wires? Why do you need to have it stop where it started? Is it the fact you want to not just rotate and fire shots?


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10-15-2009 06:07 PM
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daytonabeach
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Speak for your self John, ive been waiting for a device like this for a long time, and welcome the vendor!

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...
10-15-2009 06:12 PM
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rerazor
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Chris, be nice, his Heli can fly out of the fire?

John, thanks for answering the questions on the GSR and Pro lite threads. Awesome customer service as usual, not.

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t545493p1/

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t546994p1/

Robert
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10-15-2009 06:36 PM
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daytonabeach
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LOL, its all about one thing when i read those posts, and that is self promoting wrapped up like something else...
In this case, "bashing" someone else's products in favour to their own

Btw, John, i think you will find all the answers to your tech questions if you read back in this thread

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...
10-15-2009 06:51 PM
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PhotoShip One
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What am I missing? What wires? Why do you need to have it stop where it started? Is it the fact you want to not just rotate and fire shots?

Have a look at the bigger picture. For camera mounts that have a hollow pan shaft you can eliminate the need to install a separate RX and battery on the mount by running some wires through the shaft for pan servo and camera release.

This unit will turn specified amount for panos in one direction then on the next pano will turn in the other direction an equal number of turns. This eliminates the tangled wire issue without the need for a slip ring.

Plus it's nice to "flip and forget".

As I mentioned, the real benefit lies with camera mounts that have hollow pan shafts so wires can pass through.

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ive been waiting for a device like this for a long time

As have many others! It's a great device!

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10-15-2009 06:55 PM
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PistaJ
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Photo Ship One
Thank you for the explanation to the others. That is exactly what drove me to develop this device.
And as a first one, who has ever taken panorama with the help of our Pano Controller I do confirm - IT IS NICE TO FLIP AND FORGET.
10-15-2009 07:17 PM
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AirFoilAviation
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Actually I did read the thread. It makes no sense. I receive a PM telling me this is a product I might want to look at selling. So I look at it.

So basically you would use this for a spherical mount but then if you wanted to shoot a basic landscape shot or any other type of photo you would need to put a receiver and battery back on and reconnect the pan servo so it now functions normally?

With our mount you move the plug from gear to aileron and now you are shooting normally. So on the job if you just shot a spherical and now want a normal shot you need to change everything in the field?

So all the sale pitches shoot spherical's then change the camera head and shoot normal are all BS then? You really need to install everything all over again?

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Installation of the VR Oblique is a simple 1 minute process. A few set screws are loosened, the pano bracket slides off the 6mm roll shaft and the VR Oblique slides on.

10-15-2009 07:21 PM
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rerazor
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You JUST don't get it. You need to "change the way you see things", how you handle yourself regarding customer service and your presence on the web. You make a decent product but your personal skills have a lot of people upset. Take some advice, its not that hard.

Robert
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10-15-2009 08:27 PM
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daytonabeach
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ROFL! 9 out of 10 people cant be wrong, when are you going to realize that very simple fact John?

Its very simple, people in here have zero tolerance for you, just for the very reason that you are ALWAYS acting very cocky and arrogant in here, i think its a miracle you manage to sell your products in here at all, well, its must be your revolutionizing products then...

I know i should probably keep my hole shut, but i cant refrain from commenting like this, because its very upsetting and provoking reading your BS all over RR whenever you speak.

Your personality makes us sick, please spare us!
I dont care if you make okay products, its not about that at all, just in case you didnt figure out that part...

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...
10-15-2009 09:14 PM
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AirFoilAviation
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No I do get it and did take advice as you will soon see. All I did was point out you will now have a mount that can do one thing. "Anyone think of that?" If flipping a switch then having to flip it back is a problem hovering you may want to practice hovering. If you would want to now shoot a landscape shot you are now carrying this equipment plus everything else you have to now reinstall. The one minute change thing is gone. Just BS sales pitch.

FYI I didn't answer you when it came to the GSRZ due to the fact JR built the heli and the radio system then designed the landing gear for a new product. You will see it when it's released in Japan. I also answer customers with pm's to keep this type of thing down.

Nothing against this flip it switch idea I just think some don't look far enough ahead.

If you think I need to be the most popular guy on this forum you have the wrong idea. People want to buy something that works that they can depend on from a company that has been out there flying for years and understands what they might be up against. I hope he sells a million it just won't be through AirFoil as I don't see the point.

9 out of 10 missed the fact you will now be able to do one thing. Sorry if that pisses you off.



10-15-2009 09:23 PM
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PistaJ
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When I do panorama, I use a fish eye lens.
Usually a customer wants either panorama or classical picture. If he wants both, I do the panorama, land to switch the lens, unplug the rotation and release servo from the Pano Controller and plug them in to the relevant prepared sockets – two seconds operation – with the lens and camera orientation change max 5 minutes. If Airfoil dos not like it - that is OK. There was enough shown to decide if it is worth or not. Regarding how much it costs, it is not a big deal to argue about it for longer than 5 minutes. I have so many thinks in my drawer that I thought they were cool but they were not. If you do aerial panorama,
Pano Controller won’t lay in your drawer once you try it.
10-15-2009 09:27 PM
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daytonabeach
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If you think I need to be the most popular guy on this forum you have the wrong idea. People want to buy something that works that they can depend on from a company that has been out there flying for years and understands what they might be up against

A shame you have failed 100% on the customer service part then, and that your faithful customers feels so uncomfortable dealing with you that they dont dare to keep your products anymore, i for one got rid of my Prolite 1 just for that very reason, and i dont regret a second, i felt sick everytime i had to get in touch with you, cause i knew you very gonna be rude and arrogant everytime i asked for help...
I dont think i need to go into details here, but maybe you can explain why i feel/felt like i did then?
Well dont bother, cause i will never buy anything from you again, even if you built a ship that could fly to the moon and back again in just one battery pack greased in with blade wax, just cause you are the arrogant person you are, but i guess you dont care about that either cause you still are the best no matter what.

Im really sorry i had to ruin your thread with this PistaJ
I rest my case...

I will place an order as soon as DJ have tested it on the vr360 mounts and found a proper way to mount it, thanks for sharing new techn with us, and dont mind the old naughty WC in here

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...
10-15-2009 09:50 PM
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BULLSEYE
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I have never dealt with AirFoil Aviation but have spoken with and bought from PS1. The customer service is top notch. The response time for PM's are blazing fast. The responses to questions are extremely detailed. The mount designs are innovative. To top it all off, you are getting advice from one of the top AP guys in the field. I personally met DJ and he treats you like one of the guys. Why would you go anywhere else for your AP needs?

Joe
10-15-2009 10:00 PM
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jffry7
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Guys lets keep our cool let's not hijack another vendors thread (just because another one dont understand it or feels that it will not work for his product, sorry cant help it )

We are all innovators here, if we dont understand something doesnt mean it wont work. I see a good use for this product but I might wait for PS1 to integrate it to VR360.

AirFoil, piece of advise (though we are not close) having a product that works is not enough, you need a good customer support and open mind to make it even better. If you find my post unappealing and you dont have any helpful suggestion to make this item even better then just dont look at this thread anymore, unsubscribing will help you.
10-16-2009 03:27 AM
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rerazor
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Just worry about customer service and if you have a good product people will buy it. It really is Buss. 101.

I think the pano controller is very cool and will use it all day long,

As far as switching gimbals, please how hard is that. Your old mounts didn't even have a "L" bracket, option. Plus, I just have two Vr360's. I also have two AF mounts. Mini Pro 1 and Pro 1 all have those sweet stripped out allen screws with JB Welded legs. I'm glad you are upgrading your product because mine need a dusting.

I will keep my big mouth shut and just post about the Pano Controller in this thread. Sorry for the outburst, it just gets so thick sometimes.

Robert
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10-16-2009 01:57 PM
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iflybyu77
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Here is what I think is of value - switching the rotation direction between shots seems like a great way to differentiate the sets of images. I use a bite switch and a simple countdown timer that is triggered by the switch (timed to give me 2.5 rotations) plus a visual indicator (that can be seen in the images) which is either on/off for a given set of images. Having to process through a bunch of sideways images trying to figure out what set of images goes with what is big pain. This product would eliminate the need to figure that out.

Because I have my own self-made solution right now, I don't have an immediate need, but this thing gets two thumbs up for innovation from me.
10-16-2009 03:04 PM
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