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JR Heli Vibe - Airskipper - Sylphide - Venture > Vibe over Hirobo SDX?
 
 
S76 Mech
Elite Veteran
Location: Hatboro, Pa.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum

yeah, your right, guess I let somone get 2 me.

sorry bout that

Rick Cotte
Team MRC Hirobo
10-03-2009 03:19 AM
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KsSportflyer
Senior Heliman
Location: Louisburg, Kansas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Maybe since parts or heli cost isnt a factor. Just buy a vibe and a sdx. Try them out you might like both of em. I know I would love to have both.

Brandon
10-03-2009 03:29 AM
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Turkana
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Location: Montreal,Quebec , Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		If somebody has Team MRC and SDX Rocks in his signature what do you expect him to say?? Lol!!!! That is hilarious!And yes I had a SDX after I sold my Evo that I had for 2years and I know how it flies, pretty good that is.But others also can build helicopters by the way.
10-03-2009 04:14 AM
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Simmer
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Location: Massachusetts

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		thanks for the opinions guys. I guess I should have searched on this, but the new head on the SDX make this model stand out IMO. It is about performance and a atraight ans true flyer is what I am looking for. Less weight oh ya of course as fast and as quick as the mechanics will allow as long as it doesnt need a lot of input to simply keep it true.

I still love the Trex but the plastic fantastic has its merits. Price to repair, I hope not much, with my flying. Cost to purchase? Well $389 for the SDX and $500 plus I think for the Vibe. I would replace the canopy out of the box on the SDX. (add 100) but I would do the same for the Vibe. Thats a wash. I think a new tail boom and boom supports on the SDX as well. Grey alum. booms dont turn me on much.
I think there is a black or other colored option.

I have heard reports of long life on the SDX's
We have one Vibe at our field (well two but one doenst see much air time. The owner is busy with other helis 450, and an Avante, and his planes but the other guy loves his Vibe. I have taken it around the block but didnt beat on it as its not mine, it flew true but his expo was high and it performed sluggish. Not the helis fault I guess but I wasnt inplressed. I have seen the Vibe being rung out, and it seems to perform really well. But I have to tell you. As much as I understand the importance of dial indicating the spinning parts. I just dont do that. yea Im bad but I seem to fly fine without doing this, at least on all my helis so far.

I just cant get over the fact that my flips and loop, seem to move while I do them, I think its the interaction of the non adjustable swash, or someone mentioned the balence point in the blades could effect this cork screw roll effect Ill say.
I added in a mix airleron to elevator, but not whil I flip in place the heli does a slow piro. Rather odd, but I frankly cant live with this. So Ill pull the Trex 600 head off and go thru the whole setup another time (this has to be like the 4th time) and try to find fix this ,,,, or just sell and buy a new heli
10-03-2009 02:51 PM
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Simmer
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Location: Massachusetts

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Yea Brandan, Right buy both

Well cost is an object for sure. I will prob pull the electronics out of the Trex. Im not much for spreading my skills across two or three helis. It doesnt help my learing any. I fly a Protos when Im not flying the Trex and thats all the time I can spend flying helis. The 450 I have should be sold I think.
10-03-2009 02:54 PM
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S76 Mech
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Location: Hatboro, Pa.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		o boy ...

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If somebody has Team MRC and SDX Rocks in his signature what do you expect him to say?? Lol!!!! That is hilarious!

Just because my signature says what it says, doesn't mean that I am not giving an honest opinion of comparison between the two. Debating with you is hopeless.

Simmer, good luck in whatever you choose, I'm sure you will be happy with either heli.

And of course, if you need any help us 'Reps' are always here to answer any questions you might have.

Good luck, and Big Balls!

Rick Cotte
Team MRC Hirobo
10-03-2009 03:31 PM
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KevinB
Senior Heliman
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Sorry if this is slightly off topic, but is the SDX much lighter than an Evo50 ???

I have both a vibe50 and an evo50 that have both been vbar'ed. The evo flys heavier than the vibe and they are both fitted with almost identical electronics. Their weights are very close as well. ( my evo is the full option kit version )

Currently, the vibe is my favorite flying heli of everything I've owned. If the evo flew lighter, than might change. However, one strike against the evo for me is the plastic molded frames that make you split the whole heli to remove any bearings. Ex: to pull the clutch stack on the vibe is half the work of doing the same thing on the evo.

Kevin
10-03-2009 04:26 PM
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rexxigpilot
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Location: florida

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		KevinB, I don't know how much the EVO50 weighs, but my SDX is a full 0.5 lbs lighter than my Vibe all with similar equipment. That's a lot of extra baggage to fly around. It may not be so noticable once I get the bigger engines in both helis, but for now it sure is.

The SDX can be adjusted much more to suit flying style compared to the Vibe. It can really be set up how you like it - ultra stable for a begginer using the manual recommended ball positions and all flybar paddle weight, for the expert with no paddle weights and most extreme ball positions, or anywhere in between. There are a total of 3 positions for the bell ball, 3 for the hiller ball and 4 different paddle weights setups. This makes for a total of 36 set up combinations to try. I found the middle ball position for both bell and hiller and no paddle weight works best for me. No other 50 heli on the market can achieve this much flexibility so well.

It takes me about 2-3 minutes to pull my engine and clutch with the
SDX. Remove muffler, starter cup, four engine mount screws, pull fuel tubing, disconnect throttle link and pull.
10-03-2009 06:17 PM
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abgraham
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Location: Deep South Texas

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However, one strike against the evo for me is the plastic molded frames that make you split the whole heli to remove any bearings.

Why are you splitting the frames to remove the bearings? When I replaced the bearings on my Evo, I just had to loosen the bolts a little and pop out the bearings, put in new bearings, tighten bolts. It was actually easier than removing separate bearing blocks.
10-03-2009 07:02 PM
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KevinB
Senior Heliman
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Ok. Maybe "split the whole heli" was a little exagerated.
10-03-2009 11:13 PM
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Entityofme1
Senior Heliman
Location: Birmingham, AL.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I will mention it again. Synergy N5.You should definately take a serious look at it.Matt Botos and Todd Bennett have both been doing this a long time.There is a reason why align has been so successful and it is not entirely due to cost but also due to Jason's designs which have come from years of experience.
10-04-2009 10:23 PM
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Simmer
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Location: Massachusetts

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		ok you lost me. Because Jason can design a good heli,for Align, Matt Botos and Todd Bennet can design well also? Well I couldnt say they could or not but I surely cant reach the same conclusion just because they fly really well.

Jason has indeed designed a good heli, (not sure how much of the 600 He designed though,) Yes he did do the 700 and while I dont own one, I like the 600 Design better. From what I can see of the 700, mounting the servos as they do with the servo rods at that angle is not ideal.

Ill ask Jason next weekend He might be local at our fun fly Phenom in Manchecter, MA. I do wonder how much of the 600 he designed. I thought he wasnt in the Align fold when the 600 came out. (a little over 3 years ago I think.

Really no offence intended but I wouldnt make that same conclusion.

Ill def look into the N5 (Often I cant be waiting on the newest heli. Have to place s stake in the ground and move. Thats why I got the Protus,.... the Outrage 550 was not available when I was ready to purchase. I could wait a month or maybe two but if its now ready by Christmas, I prob wont get one.
10-05-2009 02:36 AM
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massifly
Heliman
Location: Calcinate

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		best mechanical vibe, heavy, more 'resistant tail vibrating motors at high speed tried for almost 2 years. engine os. tt 53, Novarossi 57. good flights.

sdx simple mechanics, light, fragile, proven 2 months with TT 53, Novarossi 57, and kme 60 good flights, a lot more 'fun to drive SDX.
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10-05-2009 06:50 PM
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Entityofme1
Senior Heliman
Location: Birmingham, AL.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Well my reasoning is because Both Todd and Jason designed the N9. The N9 is a really nice flying 90 and has now been around for about 4 years. It has gained a dedicated following that I would consider are a more custom oriented crowd of pilots where we like the basic design of the Synergy enough to keep it but make modifications where we may see improvement. The basic design of the N9 seems to beckon more of these modifications over some other machines that have more parts. I think it's safe to say Matt and Todd have both thought out many aspects in the design of a machine due to how much experience they have. I've talked to Todd on the phone and he not only wants to produce a machine people will enjoy but he's also concerned about other aspects of the hobby as well such as its economic influence. These influences include trying to keep the helicopter from being made entirely overseas in Asia and keeping some of those production dollars here in the good ole USA where the job market can certainly benefit from the demand. In other words Synergy is a more grass-rooted company vs. Hirobo or JR.
10-05-2009 09:36 PM
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Flyinhelis
Heliman
Location: USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Bottom line, you will never get a good answer. Buy the heli that fits your budget and flying style.

Just remember, which this hobby you get what you payed for. This is speaking from 20yrs experience. Usually, the parts on the less expensive helis have more plastic where metal is perferred and or lower grade bearings/ metal. The heli will fly good for a season then you will gradually have to spend $$ replacing worn/sloppy parts.

My choice would be with the Vibe, the quality I believe is excellent.
You should not have to replace anything with this machine. Maybe just the dampner over a period of flights.


Good luck.
11-04-2009 07:22 AM
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hookmaker
Senior Heliman
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		IMHO you can not compare. The SDX is a plastic fantastic machine - no way near to the build of the Vibe 50.

Will the SDX fly great? Sure, it flies like a beast and any top pilot can beat it around just like he can any other heli.

BUT it is NOT a JR Vibe. AND flying is not always what there is to it. SO, if you're loking for a "NICE - tongue-out-of-the-mouth" machine, the SDX is not your machine.

/Henrik
11-04-2009 04:24 PM
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S76 Mech
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Location: Hatboro, Pa.

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BUT it is NOT a JR Vibe. AND flying is not always what there is to it.

Care to elaborate?

Rick Cotte
Team MRC Hirobo
11-04-2009 04:30 PM
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pwood
Key Veteran
Location: Dubai - UAE

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hi guys

Well to just stab you JR guys all in the back.....

I bought a SDX and after the build, i sold my Vibe 50!!!!!

When the ys56 gets here, i will give my feedback on Vibe50 vs SDX. My friend George has a very hot Vibe50 that we will do back to back testing on. He too is waiting for a YS56. Both machines will have the same radio, servos, motor, muffler etc, etc

Regards
Paul
11-04-2009 06:27 PM
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Vibe90SG
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Location: Dubai, UAE

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I can't wait for the YS56 Paul. I'm sure your SDX will be a beast. That thing is LIGHT, and has a Turbulence-like head!!!

See you tomorrow.
G

Formerly known as Gorgin4325
11-04-2009 07:49 PM
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hookmaker
Senior Heliman
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark

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Care to elaborate?

hmmm....elaborate? yeah:

Let's boil it down: My experience from a field of many helis and pilots, is that it's hard (if not impossible) to compare helis.

Some like cheap helis
Some like expensive helis
Some like Bling CNC stuffed helis
Some like light plastic helis
Etc, etc, etc.

BUT, fact is: almost (if not) all helis today CAN fly the hell out of most pilots, meaning that no matter what you choose, flying wise you will get something that you can grow on and keep growing on until you're the next Alan Szabo. No limits.

So, take your pick in the wonderfull world of rc-helis!
Just my 0.02$

/Henrik
11-05-2009 07:55 PM
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