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Henseleit 3DNT - Rocket - 3DMP > Would you buy a Henseleit again if you could start over?
 
 
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Location: Duncan B.C

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Just wondering what owners thought after buying one,putting it together and flying it ,said to themselves, was it "Oh yeah this is the one" or "hmm I don't know what all the fuss was about" I've always wanted one and have been thinking about getting one in spring but are they as good as I think they are?I know the 3DMP is very agile and is high quality but can those of you that own other helis let me know what your thoughts are.So thats the question,would you do it again?I noticed this forum was a little slow lately so I thought I'd help find something for you guys to do thanks Geoff
09-14-2009 06:00 AM
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laughingstill
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Location: Gainesville, Fl, USA

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I had that same question and then.....



Gonna be FBL and awesome!!!



Esprit Model Flight Team, Logo 600 VBAR Xera 4030, Logo 500 Mini-VBAR Xera 4020, 3DMP-E VBAR soon!
09-14-2009 11:42 AM
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SalsettiA
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Location: Develier - Switzerland

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Hello,

All Henseleit’s models are splendid piece of mechanics. They can be on one hand incredible rockets with trajectories like on rails, very stables and on the other hand an agile helicopter allowing heavy 3d thanks to their surprising agility.
I had a Three Dee NT. It's mechanical engineering was simple, a pleasure to build with no play, even after many flights. But simple mechanical engineering obliges also to dismantle the entire helicopter in case of crash. I had a lot of pleasure to fly this helicopter. I've done a lot of progress in my skills too. Only for those feelings, it is worth the experience at least once, even if the models are expensive.
I had only one deception: the canopy was too symmetric, unpainted and expensive. I'm a bad artist, so I had to pay somebody to have a finished canopy. I was also not very handy, then after several crashes, my canopy had double in thickness, making it heavy and rigid. At the end, it was not so good looking anymore. Because of that, for me, it has been a one time experience; I'm back to more ordinary models (general public).
Anyway, it has been an interesting experience without forgetting that the rare TDs at the meetings make always famous ;-)

Have a nice day



Alex S.
09-14-2009 11:58 AM
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helinutz
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Location: Bournemouth, Dorset, UK

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Definitely.
Gonna get me a rigid next year hopefully.
Started off with a 3DNT that was an awesome bit of engineering. Beautifull to look at, smooth and accurate in flight.
Also maintenace was virtually non existant.
I then bought a 3DMP that introduced me to electric heli's. Same quality and flight charactariastics as its nitro bigger brother (sister?). Sold the NT as I went totally electric.
Kept the MP for 3 years before selling on a whim and regretting ever since.
I think an MP with full size servo conversion and a flybarless head would be the ultimate 50 size at the moment.
A very close second is Mikado stuff. More quality German kit with low maintenance.

>>>>>I'm so broke, I cant even pay attention!<<<<<
09-14-2009 12:44 PM
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Location: Duncan B.C

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I was thinking of a 90 size myself as I'm not the biggest fan of 4 minute flights and expensive batteries,but it sounds like you guys like them alot.Does anyone know what the story is with Jan recommending a header and tuned pipe?I thought tuned pipes were a PITA.
09-15-2009 07:32 AM
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Fredoc
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Location: Metz - France

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Hi,

the same for me, I fly an MP-XL-V91, an NT and I am about to restore an original bleu Three Dee and a Rocket.

It's just sad that we cannot buy the Rigid with a nitro engine.

Fred.
http://fredoc.blog4ever.com/blog/lesphotos-74164-1948327255.html
09-15-2009 04:22 PM
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Bonkers
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Location: New York

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I own a couple of 3D-NTs. I have yet to fly them. (Just haven't gotten around to getting them up in the air).

The build is definitely different. Jan Henseleit clearly designed the heli from scratch rather than copying what others had done.

While the design is a simple, I will say that it is a royal pain in the ass to build and (presumably) maintain. Clearly, Jan Henseleit did not have ease of maintenance in mind when he designed the heli. Practically nothing on the heli is "modular" (i.e. where you can remove it without having to disassemble a lot of things around it). Everything is intimately assembled ontop of the things assembled before it. This makes for a very pretty, light, and efficient machine, but also produces a product that is difficult to maintain. Allow me to explain. Take a look at this photo for reference:

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/.../3/DSC00223.jpg

Let us say you need to replace the flybar. You cannot simply unscrew the collars that hold the flybar in place and slide the flybar out the way you can in virtually every other heli. You have to remove the entire damn rotor head from the main shaft!! Why? Because the pitch inputs to the flybar (from the swash plate) are delivered to the flybar at its centerpoint inside the rotor head via a ring that has two pillow balls attached to it at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock. The grub screw holding this ring tight against the flybar is tightnened against the underside of the flybar. There is no way to access this grub screw without removing the whole rotor head. On every other heli produced by Japanese and American companies, flybar pitch inputs are delivered by L-shaped arms that are fastened to the flybar outside of the collars that hold the flybar in place, and thus, are easily accessed.

Or, let us say that you need to replace a fuel line from the carburetor to the fuel tank. Sounds like an easy task, right? Not on the 3D-NT. The nipples for the fuel line on the fuel tank are inaccessible to your fingers. They are sunken deep into the chassis where you cannot reach them readily with your fingers. You can pull the fuel line out easily, but there's no way to push it all the way onto the ribbed nipples. To replace the fuel line, you have to remove the fuel tank. But, the fuel tank is boxed-in by the engine in front of it, the landing gear mounts below it, the main gear and servos above it, and the main shaft behind it. There is no way to remove the tank without removing one of those obstructions. Which is the easiest to remove? I went with the engine. Although I was tempted to use a hemostat to put the new fuel line onto the nipple, I didn't want to worry about having a damaged fuel line on the heli.

Anyway, the heli is a really nice one. But if you fly it and crash it, I'd imagine you are going to spend a hell of a lot of time just on the disassembly and re-assembly process to get it back up in the air.

Still though, I do intend on flying them....eventually.
09-21-2009 10:07 PM
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Location: Duncan B.C

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I am looking at the newest version MPV XL which looks quite different,so hopefully not so much of a pain to work on.
09-30-2009 05:52 AM
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Henseleit 3DNT - Rocket - 3DMP > Would you buy a Henseleit again if you could start over?
 
 
cudaboy_71
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Location: sacramento, ca, u.s.

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as a new henseleit owner i can tell you i love this machine. i purchased mine used mostly pre-built but unflown. but, it was a pleasure to tear down and reassemble.

there has been a bit of a learning curve with the reverse-rotating motor; tuning a zero-nitro engine; and mixing zero-nitro fuel. all part of the fun for me.

the ONLY drawback is parts availability. it truely sucks having to wait weeks when down with a $2 part. i've already had to make 3 overseas orders (minimum $40 with wire-transfer costs and shipping of even a $.50 part from henseleit directly--slightly cheaper through a vendor). and, that was before i ever got off the ground.

now due to an incident in the pits i'm down with an unavailable part. so, i get to wait a couple of weeks for Mr. Henseleit to manufacture the out of stock part for me.

don't get me wrong. but, as the owner of a hobby shop with parts availability usually INSTANT, this is a little tough to get used to.

but, after all that i WOULD do it again. great flying machine when i can keep it in the air.

if it ain't broke…break it.
10-30-2009 05:03 AM
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