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KDFI
Senior Heliman
Location: Lodi, Ca- USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I'm flying a Hacker A40 8L in a Logo 500. I like the motor and suits my flying style well. My only dislike is the how hot the motor gets. Especially since the temps here in nor cal have been in the high 90's or over 100 degrees latley. I am a bit concerned, Anybody recommend a cooler running and effecient motor.
08-29-2009 08:11 PM
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tr0cks
Senior Heliman
Location: South Philly, PA 19148

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		i was going to build a 500 and ask a mikado team pilot for a recommendation he told me to get scorpion 4025-1100hv with a 14th pinion

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08-29-2009 08:58 PM
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oyatco
Heliman
Location: Santa Clara, CA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I'm not a Logo team pilot but I fly a Logo500 with 6S5000 lipo, 4020-1100 scorpion motor, 15T 0.7mod pinion, at 2300 headspeed. She runs great with no bogging.
08-29-2009 10:42 PM
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ivor-bigen
Senior Heliman
Location: Harlow. UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		From my experiance with the scorps, they also run on the warm side.
I found the Zpower motors to run cool and are also quite effecient.
The scorps i think are power hungry, there a grate motor with loads of power but that comes at the expense of flight time.
The zpower being effecient is good but it does lack the power of a scorp.
If you dont want balls out power and you want long flight time with low temps the zpower could be a good option. (zpower Z50A)
There may also be some other options but i have only run, hackers, zpowers, neu and scorpions. Out of that lot the zpower is the coolest running setup but also the least amount of power.

Mikado
08-29-2009 11:38 PM
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TheBum
Senior Heliman
Location: McKinney, TX - United States

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I bought my Logo 500 used and it has a Neu 1900/1Y 1050 Kv motor in it. My flight times have been excellent and it has plenty of power for sport flying.
08-29-2009 11:45 PM
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jamesotron
Senior Heliman
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I have a Tango 45-10 and Jazz 55 in my Logo 500 and has plenty of power for my style of flying (aerobatic sport flying), motor comes down cold to the touch and very efficient.

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08-30-2009 12:11 AM
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ke6d
Senior Heliman
Location: San Jose, CA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I vote for the Scorpion 4020-1100 KV motor on 15T pinion. I have seen Oyatco's L500 flown by a very good 3D pilot. The power is obscene. It is also so smooth that I have to build one with the same set up as his.
08-30-2009 12:15 AM
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jamesppp
Senior Heliman
Location: carrollton georgia usa

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08-30-2009 12:56 AM
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oyatco
Heliman
Location: Santa Clara, CA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		All the above mentioned motors are great on the L500. For me I choseon the scorpion motor because it was one of the cheapest power set-up I could find. Plus, maintenance, as in bearing replacement, is easy compared to an Align or Neu motor. So, in case I wear this motor up, it won't hurt my wallet. I read about the Xera motors, but they were not readily available when I needed one. Either way, just fly what suits your fantasy.
08-30-2009 01:30 AM
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Jafa
Elite Veteran
Location: Sydney, Australia

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Is your A40 8L the ET motor? It should not run hot at all
Check your ESC advance setting (don't use high advance)

The Scorpion runs much hotter than the Hacker


Protos | Logo 400 & 500 | Sceadu Evo | Freya Evo | Trex600N | Avant FX
08-30-2009 07:53 AM
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KDFI
Senior Heliman
Location: Lodi, Ca- USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		jafa

its the 1300kv, using jazz 80-6-18, mod7 (153t) and 12t pin

this one http://www.espritmodel.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=6470


Bum I was thinking about a neu. what pinion and main gear are you using?
08-30-2009 08:45 AM
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ivor-bigen
Senior Heliman
Location: Harlow. UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hi
The only thing with the NEU is they do run hot.
I only say this as your first post, you wanted a cooler running setup. I run 2 NEU motors they both come down hot after a flight and that is in UK tempretures average 20c in summer.
They are good motors and produce good power.

Mikado
08-30-2009 08:53 AM
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TheBum
Senior Heliman
Location: McKinney, TX - United States

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
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Bum I was thinking about a neu. what pinion and main gear are you using?
I'm using a 15T pinion with the 0.7 mod gear. My Logo is swinging 550mm blades and the headspeed measured by my Eagle Tree with brushless RPM sensor was anywhere from 2269 with my weakest pack to 2387 with my strongest. That's with the Jive's governor and a throttle curve of 85%.

The motor does get pretty hot, but I've never flown it when the temperatures were below the 90s.
08-30-2009 02:52 PM
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Jafa
Elite Veteran
Location: Sydney, Australia

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Switch to this Hacker if you want a reliable and cool running setup
http://www.espritmodel.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=7840

Note that your current motor is rated at 1100 watts
and this motor (the ET in the link)
is rated at 2000 watts


Protos | Logo 400 & 500 | Sceadu Evo | Freya Evo | Trex600N | Avant FX
08-30-2009 11:20 PM
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KDFI
Senior Heliman
Location: Lodi, Ca- USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hey thanks for the great info!! Flew again today. It was considerably cooler about 88* outside. The motor was just warm. Think I will do some motor research and pick one up in Jan or Feb, since the hot summer days should be leaving soon.
08-31-2009 02:03 AM
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Big Fil
Veteran
Location: Santa Rosa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		KDFI, I have the same setup in my Logo500 and the motor has never come down really hot. I know hackers have a rep for running hot, i've just never seen it on this motor. Even when running the 13T pinion the heat bottleneck was the ESC and not the motor.

Unfortunately my Hacker is sounding a bit rough after a few crashes and around 500 flights on it. I have a Scorpion 4020 1100kv here to try out as soon as the pinions come back in stock. Also just stretched mine to a 500SE and will see how both these motors do swinging 600mm just to see.
08-31-2009 10:33 AM
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roc
Heliman
Location: Hongkong

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

i think X-ERA 4020-1000KV is very fit for logo500!
he is cooler and power!
08-31-2009 11:17 AM
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jamesppp
Senior Heliman
Location: carrollton georgia usa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Where can I get an X Era 4020-1100 ?? Ive been waiting foer one this size

Who has it? Im ready to bolt one in my Logo 500. I didnt want the 4025 it is so heavy for a L 500

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09-01-2009 03:06 AM
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Jafa
Elite Veteran
Location: Sydney, Australia

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		All the Xera motors are heavier than Scorpion
I very much doubt you will notice the weight difference

But you don't want a Xera 4020 in a L500 because
it's power (watt) rating is well below the Scorpion 4020
Get the Xera 4025 for sure...

Check em out at Esprit Models...


Protos | Logo 400 & 500 | Sceadu Evo | Freya Evo | Trex600N | Avant FX
09-01-2009 04:13 AM
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OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		x-era 4020-1100? No such motor, unless it was released today and not on their site?

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
09-01-2009 06:57 AM
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