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Kyosho Caliber-3-5-6-Series F3C-Caliber-90 > Caliber 90 Ver 06 on the way! Build thread

ErichF
Elite Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

I don't know for sure. I built all my links according to the book. The height of the swash isn't really as critical on this model, since there are no A-Arms to match with.

Glad to hear you are getting close.

Erich

09-30-2009 11:58 PM

RAK402
Key Veteran
Location: Alhambra, CA

I am really interested in the flight reports!

KBDD-Field Rep.Common Sense/Compass Field Rep.

10-01-2009 01:02 AM

Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

Long delay in pictures but I have been working on it and have finished the wiring. Not a clean as I would have liked but not alot of places to hide wires in this airframe, but overall I am happy with the finished product. I shortened the three jumpers for the RX to Reg and the five jumpers for the RX to Gyro/Gov. I am using a Tunder Power Li-po 3850 30C battery, way overkill but I always go over on the battery power and capacity. I added a switch on this model as I do not want to take the canopy on and off after every flight to disconnect the Deans plug.

Thought I was going to have the Helicopter finished this weekend and test flown on Sunday but it is a no go for now. This is the first time this has happened to me. The new BLS 251 I got does not work at all. Will not power up, move, nothing

. I plugged in another servo just to check my wiring and it works great, no problems with any of the wiring. I am going to have to contact Servo City and see if they will exchange it but will not be able to do anything until Monday. If they will not exchange it I will have to send it to Futaba and get them to look at it. I am pretty bummed, I was cranking on it and it sucks when you have to stop for equipment problems.

Initial impression on the Helo Control unit is excellent. The instructions are well written and navigating through the menus in intuitive. The programming LCD is very nice and with the combination joystick on the main unit, makes programming a user friendly endeavor I am very impressed with the unit so far and I will post more as I start to put in the programming for this model.

I will update you guys once I get this tail servo worked out. Take care.

Jason

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06

10-03-2009 12:39 PM

ErichF
Elite Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

What "other" servo did you use to test the electronics?

You do know that the BLS251 requires a 760us Pulse center, yes? Is the Helo Controls unit capable of that output?

The electronics install and placements look very nice.

Erich

10-03-2009 02:13 PM

Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

Well......, I did not know that the BLS 251 was super narrow 760us. The helo control unit is capable of sending that signal. I reprogrammed the gyro/gov output to super narrow and the servo works. I hope I did not do any damage to the servo with the normal input. The servo appears to be working fine, the servo does get a little warm though and does feel a little notchy in my fingers, appears to move smooth by sight, but does feel electronic notchy if that is a good term to use. The gears are super smooth with no power on the servo. Just to confirm that this sounds correct? I feel like a big goof, I should have known that the servo was 760us. I shall hang my head in shame. Thanks Erich for pointing that out.

I will get back to work on it and I might be ready to fly by tomorrow, but I already took half the day off to fly my 42% airplane and hang out at the field, so might half to make next weekend the madien weekend. All other parts are here and I am ready to go. Take it easy.

Jason

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06

10-03-2009 07:49 PM

ErichF
Elite Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

Your servo is fine. Out of range pulse widths don't harm a servo, they just see it as out of range and don't do anything...just as if the receiver wasn't getting a signal. The only time a servo can be harmed by signal is if you had it go hard over against the mechnical stop and bind.

Glad you got it all sorted...

Erich

10-03-2009 09:46 PM

Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

Well.....Things are not looking good with my previous reason for putting the helicopter up for sale. With my big airplane not selling, I need to have some availble cash ready just in case things get expensive.

I am listing my helicopter back up for sale complete RTF and everything included that I have installed during the build.

I have enjoyed building this helicopter and I feel like I am letting you guys down by not finishing and selling, but family comes first. I hope you guys understand. A big thanks to Erich for all the inputs and help along the way. I truely appreciate it!

I will build another in the future, that's for sure. Right now I would rather have some extra cash available. Talk to you guys soon.

Jason

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06

10-04-2009 08:01 PM

ErichF
Elite Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

Well, sorry to hear it, Jason. I think you'll find the market base for this helicopter even smaller than that for your airplane, though. Folks are only going to low-ball the snot out of you over this, because they don't understand the machine involved. People just aren't buying high end stuff these days, unless it's some servo that Bert Kammerer, et al, are using.

Best of luck to you and family.

Erich

10-04-2009 09:28 PM

Dr.Ben
Elite Veteran
Location: Richmond, VA, USA

Jason,

Keep in mind that almost without exception, parting out equipment will give you far better results that trying a package sale. I've several times purchased premium models like yours, but I've never done it any way but with an empty airframe. Offer the package, but be willing to split. I wish you the best to come back flying soon.

Ben Minor

Representing
MRC Hirobo Helicopters and Team Futaba for Radios
Morgan Fuels
OS Engines

10-05-2009 04:27 AM

Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

Thanks for the inputs and wishes. I appreciate it. I will give it a little time and then offer a split. I have two potential buyers interested in the RTF package but no agreement or money has changed hands yet. Thanks again and take care.

Jason

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06

10-05-2009 11:57 AM

signwiz
Senior Heliman
Location: Lexington, KY and Sevierville, TN

Beautiful Machine

I ve been around Wayne Manns Kyoshos many times at FAI gatherings and appreciated the beauty of the craft, GREAT MACHINE....As nice as they are it is even NICER than the older models .... Good Luck

10-07-2009 12:49 AM

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Blax1
Senior Heliman
Location: Sydney Australia

I've been sitting on the fence watching this build, and what an excellent job you've done with this heli-

Sorry circumstances have forced you to sell, you must be very disappointed

All the best to you and yours.

10-07-2009 06:45 AM

Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

Thanks for the kind words guys, they are appreciated. I will build another in the future. This build was alot of fun and worth the time I spent on it. Everything fit well and is a work of art. Quality is second to none in my opinion. Take it easy.

Jason

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06

10-07-2009 11:37 AM

UPSguy
Heliman
Location: Toledo, OH USA

The job you did on the wiring is amazing. The quality of the kit is so high, and your workmanship so high I had to order a new set of canopy decals. I didn't get them applied well enough to match the rest of the heli.

the man on top of the mountain didn't fall there

10-18-2009 02:54 AM

Blax1
Senior Heliman
Location: Sydney Australia

You must be the new owner Congrats...

Little tip on decals, was your hands really well, wash the canopy in warm soapy water rinse off well and dry with hair dryer, then spray with Windex Glass Cleaner, this will allow you to slide the decals around until you get them positioned properly, then gently push the water and air bubbles out and smooth them off for a nice finish, works a treat and looks amazing, let them dry for 24 hours and your ready to go..........