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Kyosho Caliber-3-5-6-Series F3C-Caliber-90 > Caliber 90 Ver 06 on the way! Build thread
 
 
Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Just got my tracking number from Heliproz for my Caliber 90 ver 06. Larry called me to tell me he had, "to take a look inside, and commented that this was the most amazing kit he has ever seen" I am pretty excited. If you guys want to see a build thread I will do one. Just testing the waters to see if there is any interest. I know Erich has already done one, so not sure if another is really needed.

I will be using the new YS 91SR3C engine with Hatori #995 pipe. I am actually getting two set of blades, Rotor Tech FAI SG 720's and 700's. Paddles will be Rotor Tech FAI, unsure on the tails yet. I am still a little undecided on the gyro/gov combo. Looking at the Helo Controls set-up but have not comitted. Additionally, servo choice is still up in the air, BLS-451 x 4 are my top choice and BLS-251 for the tail, I ran this combo in my TREX 700 with a SG regulator, liked it alot.

Any inputs, comments, or suggestions are welcome. This is my first FAI bird and I would like to get started in the AMA classes and work my way up if my skills are up to it. I have alot to learn along the way with set-up and a new style, so any help would be great. Thanks Erich for the help already!

More to follow...
08-07-2009 04:22 PM
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ShuRugal
Senior Heliman
Location: Blacksburg, VA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hell yes a build thread!

AMA 700159
08-07-2009 07:32 PM
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Kevinator9
Senior Heliman
Location: North Shore, New Zealand

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		+1 for build thread

Caliber 6
Agusta 109A (Caliber 3)
Caliber 450v
08-07-2009 08:38 PM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Alright then, build thread coming soon. Thanks for the interest.
08-07-2009 10:27 PM
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ErichF
Elite Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Congrats and enjoy the build. It really is a fun build. There is no tweaking, bending, jarring, grinding, or hammering required.

You don't have to spend so much money on a BLS451 for throttle. I use a good old JR DS811 on my throttles.

If you want to take good advantage of the BLS251 servo, get the 520. For the Gov, hard to beat the Multi-Gov Pro using the Spektrum backplate sensor. The backplate sensor really is the way to go on this model...any Kyosho for the matter, due to their unique drive trains. Remember the Caliber 90 doesn't have an engine mounted fan. You would have to install the magnet in the clutch, and tweak the sensor mount a bit to get it in towards the centerline of the engine more. The backplate sensor is just bolt on and go. With the SR, you want to place a washer between the sensor mount bracket and backplate to get the sensor to work correctly with that engine. If not, it will double sense and not run the Multigov.

Have fun,
Erich
08-08-2009 02:23 AM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I am interested in the 520 but wondering about set-up with my JR 9303 radio. Anybody have any experience setting up the 520 with a JR 9303.

I am in agreement that the backplate sensor is the best option for the caliber due to the belt drive. The Helo Controls unit can also utilize the backplate sensor from Spektrum. I am still reading about it and on paper the unit looks great and very compact.

I did buy another SG ReactorX for the Caliber. I really like the unit. I also thought about the AR7100R but would rather have a governor compared to a rev limiter. I know you can set-up the AR7100R to act like a governor, but I really don't want to do that.

I am going to by using another switch glo unit for starting. i have had this on airplanes and helicopters and love it. The unit will be wirth more once the mechanics are in the Staysee fuse.

Sorry to ramble on guys, just doing alot of think about the cleanest install using the best equipment that I can. I have OCD really bad and wire routing and equipment installation can keep my mind very occupied for awhile. Take care. More to follow.....
08-08-2009 12:37 PM
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bobbyhill4x4
Senior Heliman
Location: Watertown NY

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Is parts available for the Caliber 90?
08-11-2009 11:22 PM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Parts are available from Hong Kong and Japan. I have not checked availability in the US yet, but don't think there is much for this helicopter in the US. Shipping is fast from Hong Kong and Japan, about 5-6 days using EMS service. Only one to two days more than US shipment and sometimes even faster depending on what shipper the store uses here in America. I thought about the parts situation before buying the helicopter and decided that it was not a huge issue with the speed of international shipping today. Thanks and take care.

Jason
08-11-2009 11:29 PM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Kit has arrived!

I just got done with inventory of the bags. I did not open any of them up yet, but looking through the plastic all I can say is "WOW", this is by far the best looking machined parts I have ever seen. I can see the reason for the price tag on this one. For me I feel I have got what I paid for. I am super excited to start building this helicopter and see how everything fits.

The canopy is alot bigger than I thought and very well made. I am thinking of sending it off to Bill at Arizona Heli, but I plan on putting this helicopter into a Staysee fuse so it will be hard to justify the expense of having the canopy painted.

Overall first impression is excellent and very happy with my purchase. More to follow.....

Jason

08-12-2009 07:05 PM
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ErichF
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Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Looking good, Jason. When we hook up sometime, I'll tell you the story of that kit, and why HeliProz had it. Suffice to say, it was almost my 2nd bird.

Erich
08-13-2009 02:19 AM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Well I am glad that I got the kit! Like I said before, the best machined kit I have ever seen! I can't wait to hear the story. I was very suprised to see that Heliproz had it in stock. I still have to get the paddles(Rotor Tech FAI), tail blades (any suggestions for the tail blades would be great!), servos, gyro and gov. Should be able to get them within the month.

As soon as I get the third main shaft bearing from Boca (ordered the Stainless steel 12x24x6) I will get started on the build. I don't need the other equipment for awhile anyways. It is just too hot in the garage during the summer to work on the helicopter, so I will be limited to mornings and nights when I have the time. Take it easy.

Jason
08-13-2009 02:54 PM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Erich,

Getting ready to get started and wondering what you use to secure the third bearing for the mainshaft? I am thining green permatex or loctite to hold the bearing in place but want to ask first. The bearing I ordered is a perfect fit but not pressfit. Once again machining is to a .001 tolerance and the third bearing fits smoothly with no play. Thanks

Jason

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06
08-17-2009 01:13 AM
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ErichF
Elite Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		To be honest I never got around to installing the middle bearing

When I asked Wayne about it, he suggested drilling and tapping a 3m bolt hole next to the bearing bore. Install the bearing with some blue or green loctite and then the bolt with a washer. The bolt and washer should be close enough to the bearing bore so as to overlap the outer bearing race. That will keep things nice n snug.

I just never got around to it, and frankly my flying abilities probably don't make it noticable.

Erich
08-17-2009 01:18 AM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the info on the bearing. I can guarantee that I am not good enough to notice the difference! I might (probably will) install the bearing, and using a set screw to hold it in lieu of the green loctite is a great method. I don't know if I want to drill into the frame though. So, kinda wondering if the factory uses green loctite only with a closer tolerance in reguards to the bearing OD to socket ID?

I have decided on my gyro/gov and I will be using the helo controls set-up with BLS251 for tail and Spektrum back mount pick-up. I have got some good feedback from the guys at IRCHA and plan on doing a full write-up here during the Build.

More to follow.....

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06
08-24-2009 01:33 PM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Strange turn of events

Guys,

Without going into too much detail it looks like I might have to sell the Caliber and all parts I have acquired for it. I am trying to get custody of my son and don't want to tap into the savings. When it comes to reality for me this is only a hobby and my family comes fist all the time! I am going to post in the for sale section. I actually hope it does not sell and my Dietrich plane goes first as I want to keep the helicopter. If the plane goes first I will keep the helicopter. So please tell your plank friend I have a 42% plane for sale. I hope I can continue with the build thread, but time will tell. Talk to you guys soon. More to follow...

Jason

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06
08-25-2009 10:45 PM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		What a difference a day makes!

Things are starting to work out and at much lower a cost than initially expected. So, it looks good that I will be able to take the Kyosho off the market. I will know more tomorrow and be able to finalize my statement. But things are looking up and the helicopter should stay put were it belongs. More to follow....

Jason

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06
08-26-2009 10:21 PM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Helicopter is going to stay with me, got everything worked out. I am glad that I did not have to sell it, I did not want to, but I wanted to make sure that if we needed the money, it would be available. Did not mean to bring up personal issues on the thread but wanted to explain why I listed for a short time just to have a backup just in case.

I am planning on starting the build thread this weekend with cleaning up the carbon fiber edges and sealing with thin CA. I will post pictures once I get started.

More to Follow....

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06
08-28-2009 02:03 AM
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ErichF
Elite Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Good to hear...I look forward to seeing this new bird come together...

Erich
08-28-2009 02:27 AM
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UPSguy
Heliman
Location: Toledo, OH USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		It took all I had in self control not to post I'll take it but I held back as I could tell you wanted to keep it.

the man on top of the mountain didn't fall there
08-28-2009 12:15 PM
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Spookyeng
Senior Heliman
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		UPSguy,

Thanks for the interest in the helicopter. I was only selling it as a back up in case I needed the money and it would have been hard to let it go. I am glad I did not need the extra money.

I have always liked Kyosho products and for me this helicopter has been at the top of my list for a awhile now. I sould get started this weekend on it.

In reguards to the drag washers for 14mm blade root....I did contact RC advisor Champ and they have to special order it. I could just take the stock ones and turn them down, but since I have some time, I ordered them. RC advisor is great to work with and respond to e-mails very fast and special orders don't take long to get in.

Talk to you later.

Kyosho Caliber 90 Ver 06
08-28-2009 01:30 PM
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