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e-Quick Of Japan EP-8/10/16/18 > Is Quick of Japan DEAD???
 
 
jimboflies
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Location: Beaumont, Texas;

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Does anybody fly the Quick of Japan helis any more ? I do , almost every day I fly one of my Quicks...

I know there are us die hard guys, mastic, twinring , gorn, and jimboflies!!....

EP8 EX twinring frame
Quick of Japan
EP8v2 EX
EP9
Quick World Wide Bat 26cc gasser
08-05-2009 12:35 AM
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gorn
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Location: Western Australia

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		add my friend "Razorbackdemon" to the list.
He flies my old SP with me every weekend.
He's now doing funnels, backward circuits, flips.
Tried his first piro circuits last weekend.
He loves his QJ

If you bling it, they will come :D
08-05-2009 02:55 AM
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jimboflies
Elite Veteran
Location: Beaumont, Texas;

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Show us some pics gorn!! Thanks!

EP8 EX twinring frame
Quick of Japan
EP8v2 EX
EP9
Quick World Wide Bat 26cc gasser
08-05-2009 11:54 PM
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gorn
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Location: Western Australia

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		will try and get some over the weekend Jim

If you bling it, they will come :D
08-06-2009 01:08 AM
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flyer09
Heliman
Location: AZ

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hi all. I've read your posts with interest for some time so thanks. I especially found subjects like Twinring's frame project inspirational and it kept my interest in this heli. So, I thought I'd share some pics. I actually bought the first kit well over a year ago and only got to the point of hovering. Circumstances later and with plenty of time on the sim, I felt it was time again to fly, in style! I bought the second kit very recently because of the sale price thinking of it as all the possible spares in case of the inevitable. I mention two kits because the second set of mechanics are mounted to a Rotorworkz carbon frame I bought with the first kit and was what I used to hover. With the second kit I also got the HH landing gear, EX GF frames and canopy. IMHO the landing gear disappointed me for the money, especially when I had to drill out the holes to fit the skid tubes, which are raw, dead soft aluminum tubing with the ends as cut with a tubing cutter. The glass canopy is decent for the money although an inch in length longer would be nice (I hear a concensus?). The glass frames are nice and an S9254 tail servo with long horn fits well.

You know, I've wondered the same as the topic asks. I love the mechanics of this heli, but it lacks the "complete" feel just about every other kit has these days. The glass frames are OK and minimally should be the kit standard, but why doesn't something like Twinring's frames, which appear very well thought out and a real pleasure to look at, be made avilable as a kit option, you know, GF/CF. I certainly don't need to mention the two piece polycarbonate canopy. This heli really has what it takes to compete with the best of the rest, but IMO, it requires better, up to date kitting of the parts and better marketing, i.e., website. Again, I really like the heli but to have it configured as I want and how I think most helicopters come these days I had to buy landing gear, frames, canopy, main and tail blades, motor, pinion, and tail fin. Is it dead? I hope not! But it is outdated as a kit. I will admit I just bought an HC500SE after much deliberating and online searches. If anyone is interested, I'll let you know how it compares.

Peace.

08-06-2009 05:59 AM
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twinring
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Location: japan

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Jimbo,
I think its the economy, at least for me at has been. Ive actually had to put all my hobbies on hold recently, havent flown in months and two of my lipos puffed on me for the first time ever, well, in the bucket of salt water they go. When I get more money someday. Ill have to buy some quality packs.


flyer09, thanks for your interest, I do agree with you to some point about the "packaging" of the Quick helis, however Ive been through many many other electrics and quite honestly, as complete as alot of them are, they really are over designed with high parts counts and thats what inspired me to make the frame. The more parts you have in there, they more stuff youre going to have to replace. Quick Japan is first and foremost a bunch of metal machinists that found a way to make a hobby career. If it made any sense they would probably make their canopies and blades out of metal, but since you and I know thats nonsense they have to out source for those things because its out of their ability. and thats why we ended up with the parts we have today. I believe that cutting production costs is always on the tables of any business, and carbon fiber isnt cheap, believe me, I didnt make a dime selling my frames. Yes they need a version 3 and probably could use an overhaul in thier marketing department, I was just in Japan last month and things are really bad over there, so I think Quick is barely hanging on at the moment to be honest with you.

cant beat the metal stuff they actually do make though.
08-07-2009 06:54 AM
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Heli_KV
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Location: Ottawa, Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I tried hard to make my EP8 SP to fly decently, but looks like I cannot. It flies, but like behemot, having 2300HS and 420 MS Composit blades. I am hesitant to go higher with HS, because it exploded one time in air. I think that's nice heli for beginner (at least in my reincarnation) to get feet wet, for it's smoothness, but no more in my case. I think I will try to fly it still, although I doubt. It's climb rate is so low. I am scared to flip it, because it can explode again.
08-07-2009 03:26 PM
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gorn
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Location: Western Australia

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		we tach'd my friends SP, with the strongest packs he has 2080rpm.
With that HS he is starting to do piro circuits, IS doing funnels and backwards circuits, low inverted hovers and high up flips.
He is also doing very nice rolls in FF flight.

Having said all that, he is very much on the limit of available power
We will be slowly changing his head out to EX spec, and getting some more power.
We wont be changing the tail to the EX, so HS will be kept at a max of 2600.

He has my old Mega motor, running on 6s 2200.
Im thinking we need to bang it onto 8s 2200.
With Zippy packs priced so cheap, its the easiest option.
I still have a CC HV45 esc, so we will use that.
May be trying flybarless with this one as well, seeing as I have a Gaui 3 axis system sitting idle.
I was going to use it myself, but it would seem that if you do any "crack" moves that it gets confused and locks out lol.
I love doing crack flips, so it rules that system out.
My friend however is very smooth and will not run into that issue.
Money is tight for him, so we are just using the cheapest options for the best reliable performance.
Even getting some new packs for him right now is a task, but it will happen.

My QJ is still down....SUPRISE!! lol.
I raided it for some link balls for another heli, will get some spares of my friend.
Ive also just switched to Futaba FASST 10c radio and only have 2 receivers at the moment.
One for my gasser, and one for the Protos.
Time is a very real issue right now...more than usual, but as Ive always said, this one is a long term project and Im very happy with how its coming along.
Will be a missile when Im finished with it

If you bling it, they will come :D
08-07-2009 04:02 PM
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Heli_KV
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Location: Ottawa, Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Yes, sure what you described it all can be done and up-high flips including. But I am talking that on HS which I have and blades which I have (maybe they are too soft and too long (420)) my SP climbs up quite slow. It is far from a rocket, in comparison with other helis. Maybe if to lower its weight (I run on 2x3S 2500mAh), it will be better. I also use CC45HV in governor mode. Looks like HS does not drop.

I hope I mounted head properly: arm on grips is on leading edge, short part of lower mising arms is leading. I hope I maxed pitch.

Any advises?
08-09-2009 04:30 PM
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jimboflies
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Location: Beaumont, Texas;

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		My EP8/9`s are very powerful and are like rocket`s. I run my head speeds around 2600-2700RPM`s. Anything less than 2600RPM, in my opinion , and the EP8 flies like a turd . I feel the heli does not even come alive until you get the HS to 2600RPM`s.
If you are using the MS composite 420mm blades , then that is one of your problems ,the cyclic and punch-out with those blades is awfull.
The SAB 430mm blades are the best blades I have ever used on the EP8..

EP8 EX twinring frame
Quick of Japan
EP8v2 EX
EP9
Quick World Wide Bat 26cc gasser
08-09-2009 05:11 PM
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Heli_KV
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Location: Ottawa, Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Thanks Jumbo. That's what I think - MS Composit blades are no good (They were sold to me claiming they are nice blades for EP8). What about stock woodies on 2300HS? I am scared to go higher HS on SP.
08-09-2009 05:48 PM
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jimboflies
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Location: Beaumont, Texas;

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		The woodies are way better than the MS composite ,and you can go to 2500RPM`s or a little higher.

EP8 EX twinring frame
Quick of Japan
EP8v2 EX
EP9
Quick World Wide Bat 26cc gasser
08-09-2009 06:39 PM
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FunKey
Heliman
Location: Zurich/Switzerland

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
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You know, I've wondered the same as the topic asks. I love the mechanics of this heli, but it lacks the "complete" feel just about every other kit has these days.

Flyer09, I couldn't agree more with that: Nice heli, but outdated kit. It seems as Compass exactly took benefit of that "incomplete" EP-8 kit and came out with the Atom 500.

Look at the pic, this is a Compass Atom 500 out of the box - beside some minor differences in the head, it looks like a "complete" EP-8 to me... really sad QJ did not came up with that...




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08-17-2009 02:46 PM
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jimboflies
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Location: Beaumont, Texas;

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		looks more like the Trex 450 than any thing else ..



This is the twinring EP8 .

EP8 EX twinring frame
Quick of Japan
EP8v2 EX
EP9
Quick World Wide Bat 26cc gasser
08-18-2009 02:49 AM
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twinring
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Location: japan

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		You know I used to get all these PMs from this guy in China, said he was involved at Compass before the Atom500 came out, guess he was following the QJ trails, and kept asking me all these questions about what the market in Japan was like, and how many EP8s do you see at the field and such, then a year later Compass came out with the Atom500, seems as if he was using the Trex and the EP8 as his base for design.
08-18-2009 04:18 AM
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flyer09
Heliman
Location: AZ

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Well, I got the HC500se and let me tell you, I appreciate the QJ EX even more. Not that the HC is bad. In fact it's a really good heli kit for the money and overall I'm satisfied. However, it has its issues as well. I did buy a few inexpensive upgrade parts to replace the few in the kit that were very cheaply made and left me scratching my head like a distorted tail drive hub and wobbly main gear. Some of the issues I would consider design compromises for sake of price and there were a very few quality issues with tapped holes and fit of parts. For a complete nubie it would have been a show stopper, though the guys at HD are great and I'm sure would have made it right. A couple of areas could have been better designed mechanically. Overall I would rate the quality of the machining as very good. The bearings I'm told are to ABEC 3 standards though generic. Time in the sky will tell how well they'll hold up though all were good out of the box. Hopefully I'll be able to flight test it very soon.

So, the QJ. Of the two QJ kits so far, I have not had any issues at all in putting it together! Twinring is so right when he talks about the high quality of the machining. It is and the fit of all the parts is spot on. I'm now also able to fully appreciate the engineering and design that went into the QJ. The parts in the main and tail rotors are massive for a 500 and the bearings first rate. The swash plate alone is a jewel, especially compared to almost all the others. The parts count is about as low as can be and overall the heli is very robust. As I've said before, if the QJ were kitted with a decent set of GF or CF frames, landing gear like the T-Rex 500, the GF canopy instead of that polycarb two piece nightmare, a decent set of blades and maybe a motor/pinion, I would not have cared to look anywhere else, oh and a website to buy from that is in the 21st century.

Harold, if you are reading this, please know I like you from the two times we've talked and I bought, but for me to pay $35 shipping on a $300 kit is absurd simply because you don't do UPS or FedEx ground, that I can't tell the price of many of your items, that I have to call or email to make a purchase and then feel like I have to barter for a better price, that the website utterly lacks appeal and is marginally useful for information on the heli and the options, all this contributes to lost sales (I've been PM'd by people just like me). The HC500 I just bought was solely because of the above reasons and yes, a lost sale.

As for the Atom. It may be a wonderful heli but I have to take your word on it. I personally don't like the plastic parts or electronics it comes with and didn't buy for that reason. What I mean by "kit" is everything but the electronics, which I like to choose myself.

So, for now I'll fly my two helis, have fun, and I will certainly remain a happy QJ customer despite the few issues.
08-22-2009 03:31 AM
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clive45
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Location: NSW Australia

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Flyer09,
I have to agree with you on that web site. It is ok if you know all about the upgrades etc that have gone before but very confusing I agree. I had to email him asking re frames and what you got or did I need extras to be able to build only to find out that certain bits only went with certain frames.
I have a set of twin ring frames and I am very pleased with and would get a second set when they are available. I have just done my first test hover on the EX and it was so smooth and nearly hands off. They are a class machine .............
I have 3 HDX500sh and I like them a lot they are smooth as well but do not have the class engineering of the QJ. Like you said they needed a bit better parts design. They have gone through a few upgrades to get them flying well and that was due to bad design and getting them on to the market quickly and cheaply. The reason I have 3 is because they never really took off (pardon the pun) over here and I got them for a ridiculous price. The EP8 was the same in that it never got going here and again the EX was very cheap brand new in box with a huge amount of spares, but I will be building another one in the near future if I can get a kit for the right price, or I will just get the necessary parts for the Twin Ring frames. In fact I must have nearly enough parts anyway.
Well that's enough drivel from me, but at least it will keep the Q of J forum alive

Clive

He who dies with the most toys is none the less DEAD
08-22-2009 07:18 AM
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twinring
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Location: japan

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Just wanted you all that are left here that the SP has been discontinued.
08-28-2009 06:07 PM
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jimboflies
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Location: Beaumont, Texas;

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		It is about time Iyobe(Quick of Japan) did away with the Sportsman. With the 6mm main shaft and the 4mm tail shaft , it was an inferior heli . It would blow up if you got the headspeed over 2500RPM`s. The tail would blow up running 2500RPM`s with the 25 tooth counter gear .

EP8 EX twinring frame
Quick of Japan
EP8v2 EX
EP9
Quick World Wide Bat 26cc gasser
08-28-2009 10:17 PM
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twinring
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Location: japan

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I really liked my sportsman, flew well on just 4s.
I think theyve discontinued because the economy is so bad.
08-29-2009 02:34 AM
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