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tchavei
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Hi guys

I've got some pms about why I haven't been around lately so instead of repeating the whole story to each one of you, here's the public statement...

I've been enjoying all aspects of this hobby for the last 5 years. I can't remember anything else in my life that has drawn my attention, spare time, money and thoughts like these machines. I had the luck (or maybe not) that I managed to increase my average weekly flying practice during the first quarter of this year which made me progress more than in the whole last 12 month period. However, three weeks ago, while flying Sunday at my usual field, I suddenly felt burned out and fed up with my heli. I packed and went home. I didn't fly for the whole week and the next weekend when I returned... I was still fed up, tired and completely bitter. I only did one flight the whole day and while I was flying I kept thinking "I wish the timer would go off already so that I can bring her down"...

I can't explain it but right now flying helis isn't fun for me anymore. Hoping that this feeling isn't permanent, I've put my fleet aside and I'm taking a short break from this before I go nuts. Right now I can't even stand looking at them or even hearing the engines at the field.

I always considered gliders and planks boring by nature but last weekend I flew an old 10 feet glider for 5 minutes and I was happier than spending an entire day stick banging a heli... go figure... maybe I'm getting old.

All in all, I'm sure I'll be back sooner or later but for now, I really need a break from all this.

Best Regards and might the heli Gods be with you.

Cya soon

Tony


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07-31-2009 12:43 AM
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Ray Fernandez
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Tony,

I feel for ya' bud. I would think that a "distraction" is needed in this sport. A little time out from the heli scene wouldn't hurt anyone. I know that when I am in a rut, the planks come out and for some odd reason, I enjoy and appreciate that type of flying. Variety is the spice of life.

The best of luck to you.

Ray Fernandez - GUAM
07-31-2009 01:03 AM
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ch-47c
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Location: san jose, ca

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Good luck to you Tony. I went thru that a couple of times in my life as well. Each time, I came with more fervor. Let us know what you do.
07-31-2009 01:09 AM
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laughingstill
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Location: Gainesville, Fl, USA

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Take all the time you need, I am sure we all need a break sometimes........Ron

Esprit Model Flight Team, Logo 600 VBAR Xera 4030, Logo 500 Mini-VBAR Xera 4020, 3DMP-E VBAR soon!
07-31-2009 01:10 AM
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onequick96gt
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I have flown 100 flights since July 3rd. I have never in my 12 years in this hobby flown that much before and I find it funny that it seems to be more and more fun each day. Sometimes I worry that if I fly that much I might get burned out but the worst I have felt so far is unmotivated at times however once I get out there and get flying I have a blast. I totally can see where you are coming from so take a break but dont sell your stuff. You wont be able to stay away from da helis forever. One day you will probably walk into the room and see your Vibe and start flying your a$$ off again. Good luck!

Aaron
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07-31-2009 02:53 AM
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Turkana
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Location: Montreal,Quebec , Canada

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Nicely Said Tchavei
I fell the same at the moment and I also hope it aint permanant.Take a break it will come back I am sure. Take a break like now!! Otherwise you will become real bitter and that might just be it then. All the best.


Regards Pete
07-31-2009 02:59 AM
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MANCHA
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Location: Cabo San Lucas, Baja- Mexico

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try FAI type of flight again with your helis !

When I was flying planes and got tired of making holes in the sky, I went back and dusted off my scale planes and/or my old 3 channel ones and flew them for several weeks !

flying a buzzard bomb shell using throttle instead of elevator was a trip !
I have not flown my buzzard in around 3 years but it is not for sale !

At our club we talked last Sunday to other heli pilots we shall fly planks again after copa mexico ( mid-September ) to my surprice all said yeah !
So, my magic 3D will be ready to re-train me and then my 50cc gas engines extra 330 and ultimate will be airbone again after 22 months !

Nevertheless my heli fleet will keep on going to the field along with planks !

That is the beauty of our R/C hobby !!

see you soon back at RR !!!!

MANCHA
07-31-2009 04:06 AM
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fiordaliso
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Location: Bregenz/Austria

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Advances in 3D seem to happen step for step.
You try hard and practise very often. And you get better and better.
But suddenly you don`t! No more new maneuvres, flying the same stuff every time. Well, great flights but no developments.
That`s the point where many of us getting bored or almost frustrated.
I mean that´s not pathological. (Imagine to have sex with 10 girls a day, week for week. You will take a timeout too...)

So Tchavei: NO SAUDADE. DON´T PLAY THE FADO!

Relax. Get your brain fed with other beautiful impressions and come back as the "NewTchavei" full of idea´s, power and passion!

All the best
Michael
07-31-2009 11:07 AM
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FLYERCLD
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Location: Proctor, Arkansas

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Time Out

Well,
Thats a deep subjust. You have the answer already, a break is what you need for a change. After that You will come back better and stronger,(mind wise)anyway. I'm sure you will be okay. When you have the answer yourself, things will be just fine.... Take care.



Charles
07-31-2009 05:37 PM
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BlueGarry1
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Tony

Keep your chin up my friend Take a good long break and come back ready to rock and roll once more. We'll all be thinking of you.

Garry

Flyin' Vibe 90SG & Vibe 50 Just love em !!
07-31-2009 06:24 PM
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tchavei
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Location: Portugal

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Thx for all the replies guys.

Its not boredom or frustration. I've been there many times when there is lack of progress, trust me. This is something different (and thus unknown and scary) as this is the first time I actually feel nausea looking at them

I won't sell them for sure (I can't fly a glider in the middle of January when my field is flooded) but I will give them a short rest.

Thx again

Cheers

Tony


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07-31-2009 10:04 PM
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fiordaliso
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Location: Bregenz/Austria

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Well, after stated that, the question that has to be asked would be what brings you joy and fun other than our hobby?

Answer A: I´d like to do other things more(other addictions, travelling, women,whatever)because they actually make me happier...(or something like that).
Such a shift in interest seems normal due to saturation.

Answer B: There is nothing left that gives me the kick. I mean I am satisfied. Happy? I don`t know... I have a lot of work, a family, everything works as it should, I am healthy, actually no real problems. OK, sometimes I feel tired and knocked. But that`s because of lack of sleep...
If Answer B is your`s, then you evidently suffer from a light to moderate depression. And because nobody really is happy with that diagnosis you call it burn-out at most.
You have to think about that because vanishing interest in earlier beloved activities is a typical symptom. And it appears out of nothing and you find no triggers.

Take care.

Michael
07-31-2009 10:58 PM
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hookmaker
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Location: Copenhagen, Denmark

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Tony, I've tried the same in another hobby. I'm still in pause on that on my 3'rd year after having spend more than 20 intense years, but starting to feel ready to come back. It's great to take breaks.

Thanks for giving and sharing you experience, - you have given a lot, man!

Good luck!
/henrik
08-01-2009 08:08 AM
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tommyvuitton
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Location: Joburg, South Africa

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Hey Tony

Thanks for all the experience you shared with me. Hope you have a nice break and come back with even more passion!
08-01-2009 09:06 PM
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Sillyness
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Location: Little Rock AR

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I feel the same way about some of my planes. I've got a 35% and a 41% and I no longer have the desire to fly them... they are just a pain to take to the field.

I found that I like flying helis a bit more if the rest of my life is going well... being over-worked kills my desire to fly, especially if it's taking away family time.

Good luck and take a breather... you'll be back.
08-02-2009 03:00 AM
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chopper_crazy
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Location: Delphos, Ohio

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about half way through my flying season, I go through about 2-3 weeks where I just feel burned out just how you feel right now. No problem, the best advice I can give is don't sell nothing, just put it on the shelf and not look at it. Someday you might get the urge to do it again and you can just charge up and fly.

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!
08-02-2009 09:12 PM
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andrewial
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Location: Hong Kong

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Take your time!
But will miss your detailed and logical analysis on the Heli related problems and solutions.




Regards,
Andrew
08-03-2009 04:09 AM
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Rob43
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Location: Midland, MI USA

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Switching up...

Reading this thread really hit home for me. Makes me wonder how old everyone is who's been responding...I hit 44 this year. My deep passion since 1991 has been muskie fishing here in Michigan. It was a specialty within the fishing sport much like heli's are within rc aircraft. Similarly, it was a ridiculously demanding endeavor. I eventually owned a $36K boat specially rigged to chase them. My success level had really diminished up to last year. I still enjoyed going out on the water, but several factors changed. Who I was able to go out with, how much time I could spend away from the family, never really able to travel like I'd need to to the places where better odds of trophy fish await...etc. Additionally, I would say I was raised by a man who passionately built scale models most of his life, and went through heli's back in the 70's when they first appeared, but didn't fly like we can today. I always wanted to fly heli's but the only foray into RC I made of my own was rc car racing about 20 years ago. I soon tired of it, although it was tremendously enjoyable to compete against friends at the local track on the weekends. Fast forward to summer 2008, when I tried playing with a toy heli with my kids...I then knew I had to have a true rc heli for me. I started with a coax and soon to a Blade 400. It was like a diverter switch turned off my interest in fishing, and all of my available time, money, and frame of mind shifted to heli's. I completely lost interest in fishing, and more particularly in that boat I so loved. Back in June, I sold the boat, and haven't regretted it. Once in a while I remember the great times I spent on the water, but by comparision, they were never as much fun as I have when I go flying with my local flying buddy. There are only a couple of us flying regularly where I live, but when I land the heli after some circuits, a sloppy tic toc, and a few flips, I have never felt more satisfied. I consider myself at risk for losing the passion, but right now with a Beam E4, a T-Rex 500ESP, and somthing bigger next, I can't see it coming. In fact, I fear more it will be a wedge in my marriage, since I want to spend all of my time on the bench, at the field, on here, or the sim. I simply enjoy every aspect of this hobby, and feel as though I found what I've always wanted from a hobby. My fishing buddies tell me I'll come back to fishing soon, but I just don't see it...it feels like something that simply was used up in me, and I no longer enjoy to talk about it or make any plans to do so. I'm afraid that since there's so few other heli guys where I live it might be tough if my friend moves or burns out. For now, I sure do dig it, and can't wait for IRCHA, where I plan to spend Saturday, and part of Sunday hooking up with my Dad who lives 3 hrs from Muncie. We have a ball talking about all aspects of the hobby, whether it's heli's for me, or 4-stroke scale plankers for him. I guess I have always considered myself somewhat of an RC oriented person, so hopefully, I won't lose the passion for it.

Sorry for the novel, but it really struck a chord for me.

Rob
08-03-2009 04:18 AM
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Stolla
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Location: Port elizabeth South Africa

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Rob i really loved your story as it seems like an extract from my own life, i too have been healed from chasing fish, (my rigged deep sea boat has been standing for more than a year)It's almost as if i've been waiting all my life for this hobby to come along.
My brother a dedicated bike tourer has'nt been on his bike for almost a year since i poisoned him with the heli bug

Tony, you need a logo 600 vbar to get you out of your wintersleep
Variety is the spice of life.

Common sense may not be common after all
09-10-2009 06:26 AM
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Simmer
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Location: Massachusetts

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Man Tony, Sorry to hear you are makeing a change with this hobby. WE ALL appreciate your wisdom the past few years.

I took a break from RC [planes and helis) for ten years from 1989 to 1999. I was busy with my young shildren, and my job had me traveling around the US pretty regularly.

I was 32 when I stopped, started again at 42 and now 52 and loving the helis more so.

I started with the Heli boy in 1979 and when I got back into the hobby I jumped in with both feet. I probably progressed in the past 3 years more than I did the previous years put together. One BIG reason was the improvments in the helis themselves and the electronics as well as the money and wisdon to purchase good stuff. (alot of which I gathered from the forums and folks like yourself)

I was disapointed when you ditched the Trex600 and went to the Vibe, but here I am starting my third year with my Trex600 and I have decided I need to buy a new heli. Was a toss up between the Vibe and the SDX but with the new head design, SDX is my next heli. While it may take a while before I actually buy the next heli, (the Trex is running beter then ever, setup is near perfect now and its flying ability proves that)

I sometimes get a similar burnt out feeling about helis.
Like why do I do this, AM i getting enjoyment out of this?

My other hobby is fishing, got the bass boat, dont mind going alone when I cant get a partner, and this is a LOW stress hobby for sure, compared to helis, but I think its about progress for me.

I have increased my flying in the past few months to where I can spend 2 gallons every week, as opposed to two gallons every other month. THIS has helped me make forward progress on my skills. I have been practicing basics as well as new stuff and I have to say this is working for me.

I still have to decide which hobby I will be doing each weekend, but I can easily toss up a heli after a short drive to the field, where the boat can be more time consumeing.

I guess my point amidst the ramble here is you have to be motivated to continue. Forward progress in your flying skills will help motivate you. (maybe your at the point where you are satisfied with your level of flying)

This hobby dropping is not unheard of.

I know a guy whom I bought my Xcell Graphite from 7 years ago, who was very smooth and confident in his ability. This was before the slam type of flying came to be. I am still a little troubled that he simply got out of the hobby and I dont know why. Perhaps I fear the same will happen to me?

Anyway, to each his or her own. I am sure you have found other things to do in your off time and those things are going to keep you sane as my hobbies do for me.

Take the rest, be it 6 months or 16 years. Imagine what the helis will be capable of in 16 years As one who flew a heli in 1979 with no gyro initially, the advances were the reason I got back into helis.

Enjoy your break, sell those helis, (not like you wont be able to buy a newer one when you get back in), and dont be like me. I kept my Heliboy for 27 years and finally decided it was not worth replacing all bearings and worn parts. I sold it to a collector for 200 bucks, including a Bell 212 fiberglass painted fuse. My reasoning then was if I want a heli with a fuse, Ill buy a brand new one.

I took pictures and sold it off, used the money to buy some quality components for my Trex.

With fuel prices at a ridiculas $32 a gallon (CP 30%) I decided to stay at 50 sized to keep this hobby at a reasonable cost.

I will never tire of fishing, but I struggle in the summer with which hobby will I do. By putting more time in helis, I have progressed a great deal, but its hard to give up lounging on the boat, dragging a line, sipping coffee and watching the sun rise (or set)

PS: when I did stop all RC flying, whenever I saw a heli, full scale, in the air, I got this feeling in my stomach telling me I was missing out on something. Glad to be back in it.

Take care Tony!

Chuck
10-15-2009 10:54 PM
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