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thtoyman
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I looking for some info on M battery in the tx. Any one change one yet? Where can I get one?And How hard is it to change? Thinking some store around here.I know tx should be send in. But its old and just want to know if it still works.
06-27-2009 02:19 PM
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JAGNZ
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You lost me, which Tx is this? And what type of battery?


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06-27-2009 02:26 PM
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thtoyman
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a old 662 tx and the batt I'm talk about , Is the Little bat in side. the one that keeps all the sets.
06-27-2009 02:31 PM
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rcmadness
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Bat

The ones I have seen are just plain old button style batteries that you can pick up at the drug store or Walmart. However I am not familiar with that particular radio. Just see what the number is on the battery and check around.

If its lost all it memory anyway just take the battery with you and check for size and voltage.

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06-27-2009 02:46 PM
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thtoyman
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its a JR
06-27-2009 03:35 PM
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JRjoe
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I've always been told to send it in for replacement unless your not worried about losing the memory.


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06-27-2009 03:45 PM
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GMPheli
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Most radios need to be recalibrated after you change the memory batt. Not hard but you need the procedure. I have it for the Stylus, can't help with your JR
06-27-2009 04:28 PM
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thtoyman
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memory gone already

why would need to be recalibrated ?

If so any one know how to recalibrate it. Its a Jr662?
06-27-2009 05:30 PM
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GMPheli
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You have to set the center and endpoints of the sticks. Along with other various parameters that vary from manufacturer. At least that is what you do with the Stylus
06-27-2009 06:16 PM
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AirWolfRC
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If the manufacturers used flash memory instead of cmos ram that wouldn't be a problem.
06-27-2009 06:23 PM
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dkshema
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We're talking about a JR 662. I bought one new in 1997, that would make this a 12 year-old radio. FLASH technology was around, but not readily used in transmitters. Many FLASH memories of that era required 12V to program, something not found in transmitters. A lithium coin cell and a few discrete components was also a lot cheaper for mass production.

Manufacturers use FLASH now, but then you need to think about the problems people (including me)have seen with their JR X9303 going stupid on power up/down/low battery. It would seem that the FLASH also has its own set of problems.

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06-27-2009 07:41 PM
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AirWolfRC
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When designed properly, there is no problem.
USB flash drives are a good example.
06-27-2009 07:47 PM
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thtoyman
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so would need to be recalibrated ?
06-27-2009 08:35 PM
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GMPheli
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It depends on the radio. The fact that it is there says it is holding some data. Default may or may not allow the radio to turn on, or be good enough for what you want to do with the radio. Does the radio power on?
06-27-2009 09:20 PM
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dkshema
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You'll need one of these, from Mouser Electronics. It's the battery with solder leads attached.

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...L5QyBmkfg%3d%3d

Mouser is a good place to buy electronic parts from, as is DigiKey

www.digikey.com

DigiKey doesn't have the battery in stock, Mouser does.

When you remove the back of the 662, you'll see this:



That's the RF deck on top. Unscrew the antenna and pull it out, remove the four screws holding the board in place, and move it off to the left. What looks like a connector on the top left corner, isn't. As a matter of fact, all of those white plastic wire termination blocks look like connectors, but aren't. That makes the job more difficult than it should be.

When you remove the RF deck, you'll see this -- the processor assembly. It's held in by four screws, two black self-tappers at the top, and two brass machine screws near the bottom end.



If you gently lift the processor assembly up, you can see the battery -- its that round, flat object on the back side of the board, just visible in this picture.



The next picture is a better shot of the battery. It's that big round, flat, yellow object in the shot below:



To get better access to the battery, you'll need to remove (unsolder) a wire from the top-left corner of the processor assembly. It's the wire circled in yellow, below:



Remember where that wire came from, you'll need to put it back when you're finished.

The battery tabs that need to be unsoldered are circled in yellow in the picture below:



Remove the battery, solder the new one in place, reassemble, and remember to put that black wire back in place on the processor assembly.

I don't know if you need to recalibrate anything, I'd guess you're on your own for that issue.

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06-27-2009 11:11 PM
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thtoyman
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yes I can power it up. But some times I get a en 5v code. If I keep trying to power it up. But some some it will come up right. All the set that same in gone. I did power it up to day and use it on sim for hour and half.and turn it off, try again to power it up code came back. If I play with it on and off maybe 20 times it will come up right. And work on a sim. I like to try it on a heli. But not till I know what going on with it.
Here the thing It work last year before out away. for cold months. One more thing I did called horizon about it. Only thing they said was to send it in to check out. and the cpu gone. I ask if the cpu was gone would it turn on ? horizon reply was No it will not turn on at all.
So the relpy makes me think they just want more money for it. Oh ya here the big hook. I had horizon fix it 8 months ago.
so just let me think out loud here for min.
MMMmmmmmm 8 months ago fix for 69.99, use 3 months and put away for the cold. Do I have sucker writen on my head? So here what I'm think. If I can't try the Batt, I beat it with a bat before I send it back.
06-27-2009 11:22 PM
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dkshema
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Is the actual battery pack in it any good?

My 662 is still going strong, even after 12 years, original lithium coin cell, and all. Bit it has been quite awhile since it was used to fly anything, it is now relegated to sim duty.

Not a bad radio for its time, but with 3 point curves and few other options, technology has left it behind.

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06-28-2009 12:49 AM
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thtoyman
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battery pack good. I use one of my other tx's. Just maybe the death of a tx.

I'm just getting sick of send it in. in the last 2 years it been in the shop more them used.

so is it a bad tx or is horizon going down hill?
06-28-2009 01:00 AM
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Yug
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Sounds like JR are mucking you around.
If you can be bothered, check the coin battery voltage but I suspect after 12 years it may well be stuffed. Easy to replace but depending on how the uP manages the battery backed ram, a full default reset may be required. Either that or attempt to maintain power while replacing the coin cell by supplying remote 2.6v power via a diode while replacing the coin cell.

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06-28-2009 01:59 AM
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thtoyman
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How does one do a full default reset

dkshema said he's was 12 years old. Not my. Thing is. If I'm get codes on start up. I'm think full default be gone gone any way.Last year was use to fly a heli to teach with.I had set up again for heli use it on sim. And it lost all my sets. But I can get to work on a sim. So I have no ideal any more. And for what you said about Jr . Well it looks like they got me good and no kiss.lol Dam I and like JR radios I still have many Jr's being uses.
place your vote. live or die for the tx? lol pick the cause of death.lol

Also if it dies, Should I send it in?lol With a note said. it was fixs not long ago. and it just stop working right? So how much to fix it this time?
06-28-2009 02:19 AM
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