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Safety - RC Helis are not toys > Need advice : does my field safe or not?
 
 
Vibe Ration
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Location: Mont-Laurier, Qc, Canada

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Hi guys,

I need your opinion please.

My field is close to a bicycle path and I don't want to be a risk for them. There is a 4' fence, so nobody will come close to me.

I am a beginer, but I thing I'll be able to do some simple 3D maneuvres soon.

Also, from where I will stand, I will be at 300' from the bush.

Would you recommand to fly my Vibe 50 here?

Thank you in advance!



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06-06-2009 02:29 PM
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JRjoe
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Location: Portage, IN USA #1

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If the bike path is behind you and you fly in front of you, i don't see a problem.


This is why i only fly at AMA fields. There's usually some sort of safety barriers and rules.


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06-06-2009 02:46 PM
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Vibe Ration
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This is why i only fly at AMA fields.

You know what? This is exacly for the same reason I don't fly to my club! They do not have any rules, all the pilots fly over the pit. A guy had a severe crash, incontroled maneuvres 5' over the ground, 20' in front of 5 persons with and nobody thougt it was dangerous!

I talked security to the president last weekend and he told me he was concerned for the security but prefer to talk to everyone one by one instead of writing rules, and give the club a new secure way, because he is afraid of loosing members. He even suggested to ask 1$ penalty for every flight over the pit!!!!

I told him my security is way more important than the money members have in their pocket and I will never put a toe in the field untill I receive, and everybody receive, a serious rules document with severe penalty if someone don't respect it.

Thank you!

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06-06-2009 03:14 PM
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smoothaseggs
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Location: SD, Ca

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looks like an perfect place to fly!! you should own that spot
06-06-2009 04:23 PM
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steffgiguere
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Location: St-Eustache, Quebec, Canada

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Stay mostly on your right and everything will be fine.

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06-06-2009 04:41 PM
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MMike
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A guy had a severe crash, incontroled maneuvres 5' over the ground, 20' in front of 5 persons with and nobody thougt it was dangerous!


Rules or not, no place is safe when bad judgment is the "norm".

A $1.00 fine is a silly idea. It would take a lot to change that culture.




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I told him my security is way more important than the money members have in their pocket and I will never put a toe in the field untill I receive, and everybody receive, a serious rules document with severe penalty if someone don't respect it.


This is an appropriate response on your part. If you are not taken seriously, it only endorses the fact that this is a culture of stupidity.

I hope you can find a safe place to fly.
06-06-2009 05:58 PM
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racin06
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This is why i only fly at AMA fields. There's usually some sort of safety barriers and rules.

Yet, I have seen more danger at an AMA field then when flying at my local school yard or park. The bottom line is that just because a person has an AMA license doesn't indicate that he or she is a safe pilot. I have seen plenty of boneheaded AMA pilots.

Vibe Ration, it appears that your club president needs to grow a set and be a leader...a leader for safety.
06-06-2009 06:03 PM
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Vibe Ration
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Thanks for your answers.

I finaly found another field. I thought it was way more secure but from Google Earth it is not that obvious! I am now afraid for the road.

The owner was please to rent this for 45$/summer!




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06-06-2009 08:50 PM
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Vibe Ration
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Location: Mont-Laurier, Qc, Canada

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The MAAC (Canadian AMA equivalent) don't talk about a safe distance IN the flight path. Do you think the road is too close?

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06-07-2009 03:53 PM
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rich m
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Location: Stroudsburg, PA. USA

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I would fly there in a heart beat. Your probably not going to fly 1000 ft away from you especially as a beginner. I would say that there is plenty of room between you and the road.

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06-12-2009 05:02 PM
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FBoss
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Location: Aurora Indiana USA

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Looks like both fields are good places to fly.
Honestly I wish more people thought and cared like you.
As far as doing 3D soon..........That may be harder than finding a good place to fly!

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06-12-2009 05:22 PM
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Vibe Ration
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As far as doing 3D soon..........That may be harder than finding a good place to fly!


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06-12-2009 06:38 PM
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Bundian
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Location: Miami, FL USA

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Man I wish I had such nice places to fly.
Both are safe in my opinion, we have a lot smaller field and I have never seen any problems, I think you will be safe.
06-29-2009 03:45 PM
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Brokenwing II
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Location: Watertown, NY

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I must agree, looks like a great [ace to fly. Wish I had a good a place. It's also nice to hear someone think safety such as you are doing. I am Retired Army and was a Safety NCO and lot of that carries over to the RC world.
06-29-2009 11:14 PM
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Vibe Ration
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Location: Mont-Laurier, Qc, Canada

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Thank you Brokenwing II! It's nice to see someone not laughing at me because I like safety!

Finaly I return to the Club. We will work together for writing some rules and explain this to other members. He always say "Live and learn" and I teased him by saying "for myself... it was Leave and learn"!!!

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06-30-2009 12:55 AM
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Twobeers
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Location: Toronto, Canada

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At my clubs if one flies over the pits for what ever reason. He or she immediately gets into their vehicle drives off and go buys a coffee for every person there. (Tim Horton's of course.)

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07-01-2009 01:51 AM
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Vibe Ration
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No kidding?

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07-01-2009 01:58 AM
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Rafael23cc
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Vibe Ration:

Seems to me that either place would be a good place. Just like the field with the bike path, I would orient myself in a way that the road is on my back rather than one side.

On either site, please have another person with you in case a curious person stops by and approaches you while you are flying. Being startled while flying close to the ground is not a good thing.

Rafael

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07-01-2009 02:34 AM
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Brunobl
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Hi Vibe Ration,

As others have already said, I think the two fields you showed are pretty safe. Those are large stretches of land, ample space for helicopters. I learned to fly helis in a much more confined space than that. Back in Rio, our field was inside an ultralight club. The assigned heli site was a rather small stretch of grass within 200m (660ft) of the ultralight runway, and 800m (1/2-mile) of a general-aviation airport's runway. We shared the flying site not only the ultralights but also with the Goodyear blimp, and later also with another, aerial photography UAV blimp. Talk about congested airspace! Flying safety was very strictly enforced: ONE heli in the air at a time, ALL helis on the ground when blimps were operating (but we shared the airspace with the ultralights), planks were prohibited, not even foamies were allowed. There was never an incident, never a traffic conflict at the site. Cool. I no longer fly there because I moved out of Rio.

My current house has a rather large, flat yard, some 170 X 70m (about 600 X 230ft), I have been flying my T-Rex 450 and even the Spectra gasser here. But I take utmost care not to fly over the road or anyone's properties.

On occasion, on peripheral vision I see people stop near my fence & watch me fly. This is from a considerable distance, as I'm far from the fence when flying, so in order to keep flying I have to ignore their presence. Someday I'll land the heli when someone approaches, invite them in, and chat. Who knows, I might get some of the neighbors interested in flying? As far as I know I'm the only one flying RC in town, let alone helicopters.

I agree with Rafael that another person with you would be a good idea. How about talking a fellow flier into going with you to the field, you both would have fun and each would watch out for people when the other is flying.


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07-02-2009 05:21 PM
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GyroFreak
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Location: Florida ... 28° 52' N 81° 16' W

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The 2nd site is ideal, and that road looks more like a dirt road, not used much. If you are ultra safe you will have someone with you in case you yourself are hit. A 50 size heli can cause serious bodily damage and if not killed you can bleed to death if disabled. At the lest make sure you have a cell phone with you that works.
It happened at our flying field to a very experienced heli pilot, and he wasn't even flying. His large heli sitting on a table suddenly spooled up lifted of and a split sec it came at him and did some serious damage. He could have bled to death if others weren't there to help and get him to the hospital.
Now after that, I still fly alone but always station myself where I can duck behind some object, my car in most cases. (600E)
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