jbeech
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Location: Sanford, FL (Orlando area)
My Posts This: Topic Forum | That's rude, elitist, and more than a little arrogant
Actually Chris, I don't disagree with you as there is always a germ of truth in every argument, and I am as human and prone to hubris, error, or misjudgement as the next. However, let me ask you this, what's your line of work?
If you're working white collar, e.g. an attorney, CPA, engineer, architect, computer engineer, etc. and lose a contract to a bid won based on labor outsourced to China, was it fair? What if you're a janitor, carpenter, printer, mechanic, repairman, assemblyman, doctor, painter, deliveryman, business owner, e.g. a regular Joe working hard with his hands and playing by the rules - whether it union or not - and you're undercut by cheaters who bid using illegal labor, was this fair?
I led the argument earlier with education or experience because when men stay silent bad things happen. Consequently, I won't be silent and moreover, I'll defend JR (whom in a business-sense I'd sooner take behind the woodshed for a whooping using my Pantera against their Vibe 50) because it's the right thing to do. Semenatics aside, place the Frenzy next to a Vibe 50 and deny the rip off. Thus is just plain wrong - you don't have to be educated, in fact, you don't even have to be experienced - you just need a set of eyes to know what's right.
As for morals, I'm of the opinion we learned some of our most valueable lessons on morals as children on the playground. Frankly, there's no more difference in a bully-company stealing intellectually, hindering tort due to government protection, possessed of enormous wage advantages, and able (in essence) to steal your lunch money . . . than when we were kids.
They are stealing with impunity! We all know it and we all know what's right and wrong here . . . theft is one of the universal morals if you grew to adulthood. You may not do what's right, but you'll know it's wrong. Frankly, it's not even a very hard judgement as these things go. Moreover, it's "precisely" through discourse and argument (as on this forum), e.g. how we interact to advance ourselves, that we advance and achieve more information, education and yes, maybe a little help with our morals. We can't hide from it.
As for experience, I've heard it said experience is the hardest teacher because it puts you to the test before giving you the lesson. People are taking the test right now. As for JR, make no mistake, this thing is gonna hurt them.
Anyway, if a company is so morally bankrupt they'll steal this way, they'll perhaps gain customers for a while - until the word gets out. Before it's over, I suspect even the guy who bought one only to subsequently learn how dishonest the process was will feel a pinch in his conscience and consequently, try to do what's right (despite being innocent). And I bet I am not alone in thinking this. Moreover, if this brands me as rude, elitist, and more than a little arrogant . . . I can live with it because despite JR being a mortal competitor against my product, I know what's right.
Finally, thank you for bringing your views to this discourse. Sadly, we may have to simply agree to disagree. Moreover, I also recognize "I" personally am not the best guy to wage this battle because I can be abrasive and outspoken, especially when a more prudent man would shut the heck up. However, 'please' don't throw the baby of the argument about fairness out with the bathwater of me being the guy delivering part of it. We all know what's right, so we just need to make sure our friends and foes knows what's really going on so we can unite as modelers. What one's morals dictate from there is their business and I wouldn't presume to judge from there.
I work for a living. I'm proud of what I do. I don't have to cheat or steal to do it. Mine is the smallest and least powerful player in the 50-class helicopter market, but nevertheless, fair competiton is one thing and cheating is another. If the Vibe 50 can squash my Pantera at the flying field of sales, I can live with it because I took the business risk. However, for the Frenzy to rip off the Vibe 50, e.g. cheat aginst my competitor means I'll cry foul at the top of my lungs because it's not fair. In America, it's all about fairness and I'm very, very proud to compete against JR (and try my best to defeat them soundly), but I'll do it fairly - and we all know the difference.
My 2¢
John Beech - GM (and janitor)
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