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chadtyro
Senior Heliman
Location: Dowagiac, MI

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Anyone have experience with it yet? What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Chad
02-25-2009 01:11 AM
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THX1138
Elite Veteran
Location: Plainfield, IN

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		+1

Lou

Eigenharp enthusiast.
02-25-2009 03:22 AM
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andrewt1971
Heliman
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I have one fitted to my stock protos, the first one was swapped by the store where I purchased it because it would not govern, neither does the second but I can't be bothered taking it back to swap it for another that doesn't work! Both have worked flawlessly , Except the governor, no cut outs, no glitching, perfect soft start.

That's just my experience of them.
02-25-2009 10:15 AM
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traderdave2
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Location: Covington, GA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		mine worked flawlessly. It governs very well.

Harlan
02-28-2009 01:17 AM
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4cyclic
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Location: Montreal, Can. and northern Vt

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		mine works well too. No complaints on the governor. What kind of problem were you having with the governor ?

Fly non-stop till your brain fizzles !
02-28-2009 02:18 PM
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drdot
Elite Veteran
Location: So. California, Orange County.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		fwiw...

Geez...I'm in California...Where do I start??


Sorry..

John.
03-01-2009 04:47 AM
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andrewt1971
Heliman
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		4 cyclic,

The problem i'm having with the governor is it doesn't!
It behaves EXACTLY as if I run it in conventional mode, the head speed drops away through the flight as the battery voltage drops and it makes no effort to correct for load.
Personally I can't believe the ESC's have been faulty with such an obscure problem, also I can't believe i'm doing something wrong because there isn't anything to do wrong!
I have an eagle tree plot to show it so I know it's not in my head.

Andy
03-01-2009 11:32 AM
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4cyclic
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Location: Montreal, Can. and northern Vt

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Im running 95% flat, and that's probably why I didn't expect much governance room

what % were you running at

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03-01-2009 01:25 PM
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tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I have a protos and a V3 eagltree to hookup but I don't have a MSH ESC (I bought my kit one week too early) or I would have tested this already . Its kinda odd that someone would come out with a ESC with governor capabilites that doesn't govern... not sure whats worse... kicking in governor mode (read Align 60A) or not govern at all.

Tony


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03-02-2009 02:31 AM
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andrewt1971
Heliman
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I've tried the governor at 75% 80% 85% 90% 95%

All have the same problem. For the first trim flight I had it at 75% and when the HS dropped at lift off I assumed the ESC had been designed to stop you governing at too low a headspeed, when I got to 95% and it still wasn't working I had the first ESC swapped.

I can't believe I'm the only person having this problem.
03-02-2009 12:03 PM
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DriveWRX
Heliman
Location: Palos Heights, IL

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Here's something I experienced:

First my setup:
- Stock Protos
- MSH ESC, stock configuration
- 6S 2500 Desire pack

I set Idle 1 for 85% flat and Idle 2 for 95% flat.
I flipped Hold off, went to mid stick in Normal and immediately went to Idle 1. Spool up was nice and soft, head speed seemed nice and consistent. I flew for a minute or two then went to Idle 2. I could feel the higher head speed, nice!

Here's where it got odd...
I went from Idle 2 back to Idle 1. But, instead of going from 95% to 85% as expected, I lost all power as if I hit Throttle Hold. Luckily I was only 4ft up and auto'd down. Weird thing was the motor was still spinning but very slow (I'd guess maybe @ 10%-15%)

I checked and Hold was definitely off, so I did not flip the wrong switch.

Anyone else experience this?

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03-04-2009 11:33 PM
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HAV
Heliman
Location: DeLand, Florida

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I've tried the governor at 75% 80% 85% 90% 95%

All have the same problem. For the first trim flight I had it at 75% and when the HS dropped at lift off I assumed the ESC had been designed to stop you governing at too low a headspeed, when I got to 95% and it still wasn't working I had the first ESC swapped.

I can't believe I'm the only person having this problem.

I logged a 5S flight tonight with govenor and got the same results. Governed headspeed drops along with the pack voltage. It's very apparent when graphed. A quirk of this ESC I guess. HAV
03-13-2009 02:35 AM
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tchavei
rrProfessor
Location: Portugal

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		So basically the governor isn't working on the ESC?

TOny


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03-13-2009 02:50 AM
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fuhlemann
Senior Heliman
Location: Jackson, MI

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Nope, heard the same. No gov mode. I'll be flying straight 100 ;-)

MSH Protos 6S
Next-D Rave 450 4S
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03-13-2009 07:53 AM
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DriveWRX
Heliman
Location: Palos Heights, IL

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
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Here's something I experienced:

First my setup:
- Stock Protos
- MSH ESC, stock configuration
- 6S 2500 Desire pack

I set Idle 1 for 85% flat and Idle 2 for 95% flat.
I flipped Hold off, went to mid stick in Normal and immediately went to Idle 1. Spool up was nice and soft, head speed seemed nice and consistent. I flew for a minute or two then went to Idle 2. I could feel the higher head speed, nice!

Here's where it got odd...
I went from Idle 2 back to Idle 1. But, instead of going from 95% to 85% as expected, I lost all power as if I hit Throttle Hold. Luckily I was only 4ft up and auto'd down. Weird thing was the motor was still spinning but very slow (I'd guess maybe @ 10%-15%)

I checked and Hold was definitely off, so I did not flip the wrong switch.

Anyone else experience this?


**UPDATE**

For anyone interested...
I was not able to reproduce the odd behavior I experienced earlier.
I used the same battery and the same settings. Tried switching from Idle2 back to Idle1 several times and all was normal. No power cut off. I tried with different batteries, old and new. No problems.

Just a coincidence the the LVC kicked in just as I switched modes... possible.

Gov mode is working for me.

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03-17-2009 04:11 AM
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xlpro
Heliman
Location: Lubbock, Texas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I crashed my new Protos the other day when the MSH ESC malfunctioned. First flight of the day, I went to idle up 2, blasted off and the bird climbed about 50 feet and then I assume thermaled off, so I shot an auto down to about 1 foot and then the ESC decided to go to full power again instantly, whipped the bird around and got a boom strike and parts went flying!

I had about 8 flights on the protos. Another strange thing about the ESC is when I came down and switched from idle 2 to 1 it would cut out for about a half second and then kick back in making an awful noise.

Anyone experience these problems?
Thanks
03-20-2009 03:25 AM
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xlpro
Heliman
Location: Lubbock, Texas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		cutout

Well it wasn't the ESC, I got another protos and moved over servos, receiver and that was it. I installed an Align ESC 60 amp, new receiver and Scorpion motor and yet to my amazement the new heli is doing the exact same thing. I thought the pinion one-way was slipping but that's a different pinion.

I am at a loss on this one, but am testing new ideas

Any ideas??
03-23-2009 04:07 AM
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drdot
Elite Veteran
Location: So. California, Orange County.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		fwiw...

XL...What radio are you using?....Ferrite ring on esc lead?...Silicone lube on belt??...

John.
03-23-2009 04:24 AM
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xlpro
Heliman
Location: Lubbock, Texas

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Fasst

am using Fasst and yes esc has ferrite ring on lead
03-23-2009 04:27 AM
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Carbon Copter
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Location: USA

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I am at a loss on this one, but am testing new ideas

Any ideas??

Hey --I had a similar issue with my t-rex 450 before flying it. when ESC hit a certain speed it cut out. I was lost but I decided to reset my radio setup for that heli and re did all my settings. And that fixed it. It was not my ESC like I thought, but some setting in my radio I was not aware I set that caused it to cut out.

Just another idea for you...

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03-23-2009 04:38 AM
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