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JCadwell
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Location: Richland WA/ Morro Bay, CA

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With my Baron 20 on the block, and the Sceadu in pieces waiting for the mail, I succombed. I went to the local hobby shop after searching my sole for the weekend, and picked up a hawk IV kit. Time to see if all these hawk people are telling the truth. I was looking for something I could learn some mild 3D on, without crying like a baby if I crashed (which I would if my Sceadu 50 piles in again).

I was very impressed with the instructions, and the packaging of parts. Everything was bagged, and numbered, and the instructions match the bagging. There is lots of text for each instruction too, unlike my sceadu 50 manual.

One of the few things I have not been as excited with was the occasional use of self tapping screws. I just don't like them. Once the hole is hogged, you can't do much besides buy a new part. Thankfully, the self tappers are sparingly used. I would prefer some sort of bolt through solution. Cases in point include the flybar pivot bushings and the starter shaft bearing blocks.

The main frames also are a little weird to get to fit right. Once the bearings for the mainshaft, starter, gear reduction, and tail rotor are installed in one half, the other half doesn't close all the way. The screws need to be tightened pretty tight to close up the two sides of the frame... Seems to work, just be nice with a little closer tolerance. Maybe it is supposed to be that way.

The hawk looks a little simpler. It has metal "collective levers" instead of the molded sceadu style. It seems to get the job done, but it doesn't look as high tech...

Well, thanks for tuning in, and see you next time, same bored time, same bored channel...

Thanks, John Cadwell
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Monkey
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hey... in form me of the rest later....

hey... tell me how it comes out at the end (flight characteristics, etc)... im buying a hawk IV later myself and i want as many opinions as possible
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vetrider
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I think you get more upgrades with the Hawk SE but I'm not positive.

My Raven is basicly a Hawk III with the CCPM mods. It is Very smooth and my buddy that does good 3D say's it's already one of his favorites (of mine) to fly.

Nolan
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Tailhook2k
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I love my hawks man.

The SE is the way to go.... Huricane blades and 53 ballbearings are standard equipment.

Got two and love them both.

Jason
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HeliinAL
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Location: Montgomery, AL

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Century Mail Order?

I think I may have already asked this to you Nolan, but... probably asked too much to remember everything I asked.

Where is the best place to get Century Helis through mailorder? I have got start looking for another Heli and I haven't even put that Raptor in the air!!! (;

Thanks guys,
Brian
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vetrider
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I have had no problems with getting them thru http://www.heli-world.com/
I hear Rick's has them too and I know they're one of the BEST in helping the customer.

I will have a Raven 46/50 or Falcon SE V2 in the future. They are a very good heli right out of the box.

See you in B'Ham in March

Travis, (RcHeliMan1) from Ozark, was up at your flying field a week or 2 ago and said he met you or maybe JPBIII.

Nolan

Nolan
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JCadwell
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I bought the Hawk mostly because it was in stock at my LHS which supports century, and cheap. If I bought another more expensive ship, crashing it would hurts more than it already does.

Thanks, John Cadwell
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vetrider
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I totaly know where your coming from, JCadwell.

I'm getting my Raptor 30 ready for just such a thing.

Nolan
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Christopher
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Hawk IV

The only SE upgrade I feel the Hawk IV really needs is the tail rotor bellcrank. The stock bushing and "ball in a sleeve" setup is a little sloppy for good gyro gain settings. The SE upgrade gives you a ball bearing and a snap-on ball link, eliminating all play. I had to install a 1/8" nylon washer above the link arm to get the ball to align properly with the link. All the other SE upgrade bearings are on non-spinning parts, and the supplied bushings are very adequate. I also fabricated a gyro shelf behind the main shaft that seems to work well.

Chris
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JCadwell
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Well, got the mystery machine togethor. Here she is... I'm thinking "the dawn treader". Hope it flys...



Thanks, John Cadwell
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Buzzin Brian
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Interesting!!!!! I thought that the Hawk 4 had the SE side frames. But looking at the pic I can see that it has the same frames as the Hawk 3. Which I find kind of strange becouse the open space in the middle of the frames was designed for a mechanical gyro. I would have thought that they would have done away with that by now. Oh well. I guess that it will have to do. But I bet it flies just fine. And I would like to say that I to had to fabricate a gyro shelf to put behind the main mast. And it worked great. Right up to the bitter end Enjoy your new Hawk. Tell us how it goes.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.
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Christopher
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Very nice graphics, John, good to see something different. What material did you use?
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JCadwell
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I used adhesive monokote and then cleared over the top of that. I cut designs out of paper, and then traced those with the Exacto on the monokote.

Thanks, John Cadwell
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Greg Takacs
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So, how does it look compared to the Sceadu? I'd love to hear from someone unbiased about the Century Hawk as so far I've only heard "I love it, it's the best" or "I hate it it's POS". It would be nice to hear an educated opinion that is based on owning and assembling both helis.

I went to Century's website the other day to check out what they have, and I wasn't very impressed with the looks of the birds. They look '80-ish. Correct me of I'm wrong but the Hawk is only a 30 machine, right?

Anyhoo, just keep us posted about your opinion and progress!!!
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JPBIII
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Location: Birmingham,Al

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Nolan,

It was me that Travis met in B'ham. I have been putting alot time on my Sceadu 50 , almost 2 gallons through it now. Will you have a SE 2 when you come to the B'ham fly in ? I know of a couple people who are intererested in one.
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vetrider
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I don't know if I'll have one by then but I would Like too!!
I can tell you I'll be bringing a FLEET of heli's up. I think I need to rent a large van to haul all my stuff and a few other guys stuff up. We should have 6 or 7 scale heli's to look at and that many more pod-n-booms. I hope it's doesn't cost landing fees on every heli!

Looking forward to getting up that way and meeting the B'Ham group and others.



Nolan
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JCadwell
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The hawk seems pretty decent for the money. The stock graphics are UGLY though. Not sure how well they stick, I just stuck them on the shelf. The frame material is some sort of fiber filled plastic, which isn't terribly attractive to look at. The sceadu frames have much prettier molding, and radiused edges around everything. Building it requires bolting a bunch of flat pieces togethor, unlike the sceadu, which really only has three frame components (two main and servo tray).

The control system seems pretty slop free. The instructions are EXCELLENT btw. Very easy to read, well labeled parts and all the parts are in bags that are reffered to by bag. Easy to build. I really like the clutch setup as well. Everything is attached to the motor, so there is not any alignment issue with the engine other than main gear to the clutch bell gear. The clutch was also prebuilt, and toleranced correctly. Better than I could have done.

Many of the instructions present construction sequences that have already been done. I'd imagine these are parts that people screw up most often, and the factory has just done it for you, instead of letting you screw it up.

The tail is really stiff. The small molded parts are not molded all that well, and the tail pitch ball links had mold seems and binded when I installed them. I surfaced the faces of the pitch links, as well as the pitch change plate. They were still snug. I pressed the pins in, and tried some grease, with no love. Finally I heated the ball links for a fraction of a second with a lighter, and the thermoset plastic took an imperceptable new shape, and relieved the inward pinch. They are pretty smooth and free now. The tail blade holders have plastic balls. Everything else has nice metal balls. I want metal on the tail. The plastic on plastic just doesn't cut it. On the plus side, the tail is already set up for a tail mounted servo. The linkage has a threaded coupler in the correct spot, so when you get the tail mount all you have to do is thread a ball link on rather than the coupler. No need to buy a new pushrod. I thought that was kinda cool.

The servo setup does leave a little to be desired. I wanted to use beefy servo horns, and the way they linkages interact makes this a little harder. I had to SLIGHTLY angle a few links (the aileron ones) to avoid rubbing. No binding, just touching links.

Other than its erector set look, I like the way things are put togethor on this ship. Almost all machine screws have nylon locknuts, and I ended up with the tuned muffler (which looks REALLY nice) instead of the short stubby one for some reason. There is setup data for all the links, and a page with links printed out so you can make them all by comparing to their life size views. Easy. They were all pretty close too.

As for flying? I have no friggin idea. It is done. Just the main blades to balance. It is also dark. Tommorrow is going to be the big day I guess. We shall see.

Thanks, John Cadwell
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Greg Takacs
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John,

Thanks for the info. There are a lot of things you mention that are the same on the Sceadu as well (numbered bags, pre-assembled parts), but I'm glad to read your review!
Let us know how it flies once you get it up there!
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Syclic
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Location: Northern Hemisphere BC.

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Century Heli's

JC

I am sure you will find it a great little bird, specially for the price. And for all out 30 size 3D the SE with the torque tube upgrade, it is simply awesome. I find it lto be like a mini X-Cell 60 SE. And for the ultimate power to weight etc. try the Falcon SE V2 next.

In my experience, the people who have purchased the latest offerings from Century, are all very impressed.

I was called "Mr. Hirobo" by my flying mates for more years then I care to admit. Then I tried some of Century's latest offerings and have been very impressed.
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oldfart
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JC,

That looks great. I found that spraying a light coat of the clear automotive primer (used on the plastic/rubber bumpers on cars...available inspray cans for about $5.00 at any automotive/hardware store) on these type of poly canopies really helps the adhesion of any sticky trims/decals to them.

Enjoy
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