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Gohbee Aviation Stinger 30-90 > Gohbee Phazor 600 head...needs help.
 
 
cughe
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Location: tallahassee fl usa

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hi to all,any 1 tried to put the Phazor 600 head in the TT Raptor E ? i tried today but got the problem that have too much + pitch,thks for your time and advices.

10-06-2008 Over year old.
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FLYINFOOL
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Location: Cudahy, WI

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I have never tried to put the Phazor head on a Raptor E, but will try to help you figure it out.

Can you post a pic with the pitch set at 0° and including all of the linkages from the grips to the bell cranks below the swash?
That will help us figure out where you need to adjust.


Jeff Borowski
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cughe
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hi Jeff,the 1st pic shown pitch at 0 deg.,the 2nd shown pitch at 13 deg. with throttle stick and levers centered..

10-07-2008 Over year old.
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FLYINFOOL
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These pics look like something is really messed up.
We will start at the beginning. Please forgive me if I get to basic but I do not know your level of experience.

Since the TT part of the linkages are not adjustable between the bellcrank and the swash, you will have to work your way around that.

The swash setup does not look like it is a "normal" 120° CCPM setup, so make sure that your TX is set for the correct swash setting per the TT manual.

In the second pic the servo arm, bellcrank and links, look close to where they should be when at mid stick and 0 pitch. so lets start there.
The following steps will need to be done for each of the cyclic servos. and these steps should be in your TT manual.

1. set all trims in the TX to center, set all sub trims to 0.

2. Remove the servo wheel and set the wheel back on the servo so that the 2 balls will form a 90° angle with the links. You can use the corner of a piece of paper as a guide. put the arm on so that you are as close to that 90 as possible and then use the Sub Trim to get it just right.

3. Check both links to be sure that they are both the same length and that length is equal to the distance from the center of the servo wheel to the center of the pivot point of the bellcrank.

Now is where it may start to get a little tricky

4. Adjust the 2 vertical links that are between the bellcranks and the swash till the swash is level. both links should end up the same length and that length should match the the TT manual.

5. Now move the swash up and down and make sure that there is no binding at either end and make sure that it is moving in the correct directions. This is where the differences start, The TT has the swash move up for positive pitch and the Phazor head needs the swash to move down for positive pitch. tilt forward when you move the right stick up and tilt left when you move the right stick left.

6. Now adjust the 2 short links that run from the mixing arms to the flybar carrier. You will need to adjust these so that the mixing arms are both level and parallel to each other while the flybar carrier is also level. From the way the pics look you may need to shorten the metal links. both links should end up the same length.

7. Now adjust the long links that run at an angle so that the inner ball is level with the the flybar with the flybar level. Again both links should be the same length, and again the pics look like you may need shorter metal rods.

8. now finally adjust the short links to the blades to get your 0° pitch.

9. Now go back and check the full travel of the swash to be sure that there is no binding anywhere.

That should get you pretty close, now you can go into the TX menus to set up what you want for top and bottom pitch. When you are all done, check again for binding and that everything is moving the right way.

I am sure that I glossed over something to quick or missed something that I took for granted, so feel free to hit me with the questions.

Now I must go rest my fingers.


Jeff Borowski
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cughe
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Location: tallahassee fl usa

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hi Jeff,very sorry about your fingers and really appreciate for your time to help me but so far no glue yet...i m sending another pic to show that the position of the swash should be raised higher to reduce the + pitch but we can not touch the links from bell crank to swash because elevator arm is fixed,so i plan to LENGTHEN the 2 long links from mixing lever to swash,your advice,thks again.
raptor is setting 3sevo 90 deg. ccpm.

10-08-2008 Over year old.
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cughe
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Location: tallahassee fl usa

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hi Jeff,here is another pic to show the position of the swash at throttle stick centered and blades at O deg. pitch after i lengthened 2 longs links,guess what now i have only 6 + deg. pitch when swash goes all the way down and 16 - deg. pitch when swash goes all the up...probably i have to do another way.just want to let you know ,thks for your time.

10-11-2008 Over year old.
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cughe
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Location: tallahassee fl usa

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hi Jeff,fixed it finally,i replaced 3 links from bell cranks to swash plate with 3x 8mm longer links and it's perfect now,hovers very stable,thks for help.

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FLYINFOOL
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Glad to hear that you got it working.
I will definitely add this to my notes for when it comes up again.


Jeff Borowski
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10-27-2008 Over year old.
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