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e-Century Hummingbird - Swift > Swift RTF report..

laughingstill
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I want to run a 2000 HS

The you need the 80 amp ESC I mentioned earlier for sure. Like IMNXTC said, 4s is fine with a small ESC for low headspeeds and gentle flying, anything else and you will destroy it. I personally would not buy that setup as it leaves you no room to grow. I would go with the 600+ motor, get an 11 tooth pinion for 5s and a 9 tooth for 6s (when you decide to upgrade) and the 80 amp ESC. Then all you need to do is a battery/pinion change and you have a MONSTER instead of a kitty

. How much you looking to spend on it? I would also buy the best electronics you can afford as they will make you experience much more enjoyable in the long run......Ron

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Blade_Master1
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Thanks Ron

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oldfart
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I want to run a 2000 HS What would be best for a 5S1P

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I agree with laughingstill relative to the best combo being the 600A+ motor and the 80A ESC, simply because you are not limited at all with it - anywhere from 4S to 6S.

To accomodate any of the battery packs all you need to do is cahnge the pinion.

With a 5S pack the 55A ESC will be more then enough even at a 2000 head speed. The 5S pack is one of my favorite combos for the Swift, as it results in a very good power to weight ratio and relative disc loading.

But of course, for the absolute POP type of extreme 3D, nothing can replace the brute power and rotor speed available from a 6S pack

...and the 80 A ESC, with the 600A+ motor, will allow you to go there later, if you so desired...at little extra cost.

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retroman
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I see where Heli-World has a PNP Swift ready to fly machine available on line. Too cool. Someone also asked about binding a DX7 to the Swift RTF. 2.4 radios are pretty much proprietary to there own systems. Spektrums only work with theirs and JR's (made by same people???), Futaba only to theirs, etc. They handle the signals their own way which is one of the selling features of the 2.4 systems.

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Blade_Master1
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Hmmm I thought this was a pretty sweet deal
http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=9051

costs way less than an Align 450v2

although it's more for the advanced builder it is none the less a Great deal
I'm going to have to get me one of these Thanks Ron & Oldfart for pointing me in the direction

Just saw the PNP version WOW

Thanks for listening Century

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oldfart
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Yep, these combos have been available for quite awhile - good to see people are finally realizing they can get something bigger and better then a Trex 450 for less money.

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Pistol_Pete
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^ unfortunately not many listen.

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retroman
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I have a quick question. What would be a good charger/balancer for the battery that comes in the Swift RTF? Also, when are spare batteries to become available?

Thanks,
Dan

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imnxtc
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I use both the Astro flight "Lithium" charger and the Thunder Power TP1010C.

You will find today there is a myriad of choices of good chargers for these cells...at great prices also.

The battery packs have been available for a long time, even before the RTF was launched - they are the CNE5515.

I had ordered some last spring, for a scale project I was working on.

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retroman
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I checked Hel-World on the battery and they are sold out. No other web site lists them. I am very new at this so excuse my questions but can I put a balancer in line between the stock charger and the balancing leads of the battery? That appears to me the best approach or is it???

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imnxtc
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I found the Electifly Equinox balancer worked perfectly with them.

I also found the Electrifly 4S/5000 packs work very well and will give much longer flights.

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retroman
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Thanks imnxtc for the poop. I shall ponder on it.

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retroman
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Well I have gotten my Swift back from the factory. The radio binds which is wonderful. Today I played with it for a little. I had to trim some off my canopy due to battery and servo interferance. The machine is tail heavy. If I mount the battery more forward to bring the CG into range then I can't get the canopy on. I suspect some ballast in the nose is in order but I don't want to make it too heavy. Any thoughts????

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imnxtc
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That 4S3300 battery pack would be very light - I read somewhere that someones Swift RTF only weight 4 lbs 15oz. That is under 5 pounds!!!

My Swift with 4S/3700 packs weighs in at 5lbs. 6 oz. (of which 5 oz. is the seperate 4.8V RX battery pack I have up front). And at that weight is flies very well. So I am sure, if you add some "ballast" it would be no problem.

I trust you cut out the bottom of the "scoop" as far forward as you can, to mount your battery as far forward as possible?

You can probably also cut out the front of that scoop and move the battery even more forward if you want - but the simplest would probably be just to add 3 or 4 oz. of ballast, as far forward on the top tray as you can get it.

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retroman
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You offer good tips imnxtc; the Li-po balancer you recommended is one I was looking at so you just confirmed my decision. I think carving on the canopy is the way to go. It's too confining for someone like me who doesn't know what their doing! We have lots of ballast in the hanger so that should be no problem. My big concern is over loading the ship.

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imnxtc
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No problem with overloading the ship. I have slung 1 1/2 pound loads easily on 4S/3700 packs on my 16.

In training a little more weight can be a plus, as it will be more stable in wind.

Where power/weight becomes more important is when you get into flying maneuvers that require fast acceleration into and out of. As it is easier to do so on a lighter mass then a heavier mass, then less weight becomes a factor....as does more power.

To use a car analogy. One can easily learn to drive a car that is powered by a small 4 banger, with sand in the trunk for traction in the winter. Then once you learn to drive properly and want to get into rally racing, then you can pull the 4 banger out and install a turbo charged V-6 and take the sand out of the trunk.

The difference with the Swift, compare to a car, is it will cost you a lot less and be a lot easier to change out the power system (motor, esc & battery packs) for an all out 3D machine, then it would to change the car for rally racing.

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retroman
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Thanks for the advice. Makes sense to me. My problem now is getting room in the hanger to fly. Too many airplanes needing work this week.

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genovia
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Tail heavy? Check the elev. servo first, see if it is level.

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retroman
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Now he tells me...lol

Hate it when that happens!

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shortdog
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Thats a good ? blade_master1 id love to have it in a bind and fly or pnp.

11-24-2008 03:41 AM

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