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YSRRider
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wow, looking at those pics, back in the day knowing how a heli was built and worked, we were some stupid individuals! those helis are hideous! not that i would have done a better job, but its fun to laugh at other peoples mistakes! my guess is that they flew worse than they look! ha ha ha ha ha!
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pileit1
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Blade Runners' box

Nope, that's the one Blade. I guess I just thought the lighting gave it a greenish tint, I assumed it was black. I like how you adapted the front of the box to hold the transmitter. VERY CLEVER!
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BladeRunner
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Box?

Hehe, thanks Rocky, the only problem with that is be sure to clip the radio in securely Don't ask me how I know this )-the radio survived unscathed but it makes you check twice after that. The idea came about when I got to the field one day with everything--but the TX!
One of those-darn this is never gona' happen again!
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Maxx
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In the late '60-early '70"s Dieter Schluter and Ewald Heim (BTW, the ball in the middle of your swashplate that lets it swivel is called a Heim Ball!) started flying remote control helis that were fully controlable...the first in history! Their helicopters were built in full bodies (cobras and Jetrangers) and had actual wet transmissions for gear reduction of the main and tail rotors! When demand outpaced production capibility, Hegi started producing the Hegi Cobra. After that I believe Mr. Heim went to work for Kavan (?) and the Kavan Jetranger was born! Full Bodied, wet transmission, a .60 sized engine (the Webra Blackhead was in mine) with a blazing 1.5 HP on a good day, the Jetranger was one of the first "mass produced"helis imported into the USA. With low power, a heavy (14+ lbs.) airframe and radios that were very rudimentary by todays standards; the Kavans flew very well! Then, about 1974, the pod and boom heli was born and the fuselage models faded from the view. American, Revolution, GMP and Schluter all started producing the first generation of helis that bear a resemblance to what is flown today. Around 1977 I saw some of the first aerobatics flown by helis in Shreveport and Sulphur La.! Hubert Bitner, Mike Mas, Larry Jolly and Bo Hinch were really unbelievible...loops, rolls and sustained inverted flight, all with no gyros, no servo reversing, no expo or dual rates, no idle-ups or hold switches...just a radio that had two sticks and four trim pots...on AM no less! Ahhh, the good 'ol days...YEA RIGHT! Chris (the ancient flatus)
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Dyehard
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Maxx, did Ewald Hiem invent the Heim joint? My plane has them, and it is a little older than model helis. Do you remember the pictures of Ernie Huber hovering the Kavan Jetranger inverted.
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alvinrc
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Yeah...Those first chopper meets in Lake Charles/Sulfur LA where a lot of fun.
I used to make it over from Mobile every year.
Everyone would go to smileing when we pulled up.
I thought that I was just popular, but found out why later.
If they had not yet had a really good crash demonstrated, one would soon be acomplished shortly after I arrived.
I remember one time that I had the best crash prize (little b&w TV set) all wrapped up as I had planted my X-Cell about two feet into that LA gumbo mud.
Curtis Youngblood then pulled one of his rare boners and messed up an emergency auto and did some minor damage.
Bo came over to me and said that being who was who, they were going to give the TV prize to Curtis to make him feel better.
Found out who my friends were right quick.

Here is photo of me and my Schluter Superior (with Champion head) at Lake Charles get together back in late 80s.

Alvin



Here is the Dubro Whirleybird 505 as presented on cover of RCM back then. That is a K&B .40 (no muffler - just exhaust restrictor plate that closed with reduction in throttle to provide back pressure to comburstion chamber for a really good idle) with counter weight to balance out engine, all mounted on top of head. The regular plank prop on engine was to provide the lift and engine torque made head/main blades spin to provide some stability and cyclic control.
The round silver looking thing just below head was an aluminum fuel tank.
The TR control was just a "pull" cable, spring loaded for opposite direction. TR hub and pitch control stuff was an assortment of Dubro metal hardware items that you silver soldered together and cussed a few time till it worked kind of smooth. Tongue depressor TR blades.
Spring loaded cyclic pushrods from servos to kind of a swashplate.

It is all coming back to me now.
Wish I still had one to try again.



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Vitya
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Hey Bladerunner, what's this thing? ANd also, what heli movie was ford in since i don't recall anything...
Thanks
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ed vega
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although the hobby dates back to the early 1930's with teathered control (u-control airplanes) and radio development , it was three german engineers in 1967 independant of each other began developing thier own models ..

they were H. Demuth, F.Besterfeld , and none other than Dieter Schluter. it was all about a cash prize for the longest heli flight under radio control . schluters huey cobra lasted for 27 minutes and a distance of 11.5 kilometers . america and japan were his first customers .. of which we are the recipients of his efforts , the rest is history ..
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Thing?

Hey RC, that's a remote controlled airforce (I think) heli built for unmanned surveillance-I put it in a post as a joke one time--I think the thread is called "my next heli" There are several other posts that have different types like this as well as this one, those guys know a lot more about it than I do.
The movie "Blade Runner" with Harison Ford was not about helis,but it has some neat vehicles. It was a Sci-fi movie about "replicants" cyborgs or robots that were created exactly like humans except they had a 4 yr life span, Ford was a "Blade Runner" a hunter that was forced out of retirement and had to track down five replicants that escaped and were killing people. I always liked the name and when I got back into helis it seemed like a good fit.
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clearsky
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505 whirley bird

to all interested I have a complete kit, about 50% completed.I purchased this way back in the day.Any offers?
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DenisS
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I've got a flying Schluter Huey Cobra, circa 1970, which I take out on vintage meets, also a Graupner Bell 212 collective version in flying condition. I have original instructions in German featuring Dieter Schluter building the Huey cobra and paperwork of the Graupner Bell 212 which flew across the English channel back in the mid 70's. They are getting rarer now but I know of a couple of people who have them here in the UK.
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wolfdad
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I think if you can get your hands on Schluter's book, you will find that Dieter was setting records with his helicopter in 1967/68. I was fortunate enough to both have his book and I owned one of the first Schluter Cobras imported into this country and that would have been in the 69/70 timeframe.

In order to be as authentic as possible, I wrote to Bell Helicopter to inquire about paint schemes and color numbers and where I could order the paint. Bell, or one of their super employees, sent me a quart of the correct paint at no charge. I have always had, since then, a very fond spot for Bell, and now, am fortunate enough, as a government employee to be working on the H-1 Upgrade (AH-1Z and UH-1Y) Program and work very closely with Bell.

On a tangent again, but I think the records will indicate that 1967 would be probably the first time an RC heli made an appearance.

wolfdad sends........

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