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ripmax
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Look at the Xtreme 50 design for the tank

I looked at the extreme 50 tank design..... it uses grommets to isolate the tank from vibration... maybe this pos could benifit from a tank like that
05-24-2008 Over year old.
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ZXXflyer
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I guess I just never realized that a gas tank could make or break a heli like that.

Believer in Weston motors!
05-24-2008 Over year old.
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ripmax
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its all the little things like the tank, the incorrect CCPM geometry, the switch mount right next to the motor, the lack of testing before release, 15 year old head design etc........

Call it what you will... but please... Irwin will be able to design proper helis when hell freezes over
05-24-2008 Over year old.
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ZXXflyer
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I see nothing wrong with the CCPM geometry....
I will let you know as soon as I install the servos.

Normally with 120 CCPM the rear of the swash will drop when applying full aileron... The angle on the linkages you are seeing will actually correct for this.

I'll be sure and video the swash movement for you and let you know if there is any radio mixing required.


I had to add some mixing and alter the endpoints for the 120 CCPM conversion on my Hawk Pro... you can see it in the Century section..

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05-24-2008 Over year old.
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Quick Worldwide
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Hi ripmax

Hello,

I don't know you & I am sure you don't know me either. However until you you have helicopters experience for 22 years I strongly suggest you not make unwarrented comments. First read & allow the guys building complete there machines. Whatever you say is only CONJUCTURE based on no knowledge or experience.

A simple piece of foam on top of the tank prevents any movement.


we do not need trolls on QWW just looking for post rewards.
Please talk from experience & facts.

I am going flying NOW....see you...QWW
05-25-2008 Over year old.
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Chris Paul
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Positive Input

Ripmax, I am just curious, do you have some useful input as to improving the Bat design, or are you here to simply throw insults and make ignorant unwarranted comments that seem to be made simply to be insultive and spiteful. The Bat has been tested and is a very capable machine. Insulting Irwin and QWW doesn't do any good on the forum. As for calling the bat a POS without even seeing one in person seems very presumptive and frankly downright rude. Can you offer some useful information, or is this immature spewing of useless negativity all you can offer? If you can properly give suggestions and comments, I am sure QWW will be receptive to the input.
05-27-2008 Over year old.
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shuttlepilot
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15 year old head design etc........

And you fly a freya.....and talk about old design

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the lack of testing before release

And you fly a 600!!! Align used ALL BUYERS as testors to steer toward upgrades.... Are you running the stock clutch and one-way?

Maybe your blade has a "new" design....

And finally...one of your quotes on crap comments on another forum

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You are kidding right? when was the last time you flew an "brand X" to draw those conclusions? ....typical nut swinger, who knows jack and falls into the "well, XXXX said so" deal.

Is the pot calling the kettle black......hmmm.

Please keep the trolling to a minimum.....and preferably on another forum.

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05-27-2008 Over year old.
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geker
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Come on now guys you know that some people just have to bitch about something. all ya gotta do is let em vent read it and move on like it don't even exist and the will go away
05-28-2008 Over year old.
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rsalazar
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Any update on the BAT 70 Build
05-28-2008 Over year old.
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snobdrs
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Youve heard of selective hearing right. How about selective reading. If the name is Ripmax i just dont read it. I mean really would you read DR Seuss if you wanted to learn about rocket science?

Support your local hobby shop
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ZXXflyer
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nothing new yet....
got the pro head rebuilt, and waiting on the next batch of parts from QWW....

next update I should have the Weston motor installed, and the head on..
Then I can start on the electronics installation and radio programming.

I do have my Quick 60 pro ready to fly again... I think I fixed the issue of the tail not holding. IT now has a new main gear from QWW that runs a true as could be with NO hi-spot anywhere. There should be NO vibrations going through my frames now! If the tail won't hold now, I'm throwing the CSM 540 and tail servo out the window.
I will shoot video of the 60 as soon as I go fly it. It's dying for some tic-tocs and mild 3D.....

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05-28-2008 Over year old.
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ZXXflyer
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Update...

Got some more parts in from QWW, but havn't had any free time to fly or work on the Bat.

Should have free time next week to get back to the build and hopefully some nice weather to go fly.

Believer in Weston motors!
06-08-2008 Over year old.
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JuanRodriguez
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If the tail won't hold now, I'm throwing the CSM 540 and tail servo out the window.

You should have done that MANY, MANY moons ago !!!!
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JA Allen
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Chris,

The most important thing, even though he could have said it with more tact, is that the head, and even tail systems, used in the bat series are the same as all the older Quicks. Rip is very correct in his thoughts, but not in his communication.

Just changing frames, control geometry, and tank CG (Even the tank is the same older design, helps a little, but not performance beyond what is already there. 22 years in the business, I commend Irwin, always have for that, but that does not mean experience in all matters of modern RC heli flight for the last 8 years, and what is needed in todays flight envelope, FAI/F3C or 3D. So enough with the 22 years stuff. I love Irwin and you guys with all my heart, but enough with that.

The tail and head of the older Quick, and the new Bats, are more than capable of hard 3D, they just need some small changes and damper re-thought. The new frames and some design changes that were made are great changes, but even I made some comments and got yelled at. They are a step in the right direction, no doubt, but I would have also expected a tail rotor link and design change (the new tail control rod design is VERY good BTW) and the head, I know about 5 easy changes QWW could have made and made it scream! Trust me, I have been doing this for 15 years, maybe I know a little too.

My Nitro does it all, and has held together (Although I wish the main gear and engine pinion would mesh like the tail and tail gear do). It runs fine, but, Can you guys give me a delrin machined gear please??? I will call tomorrow! LOL!


The long awaited 3D vid of my flying 3D is complete, And I also added an FAI/F3C part to it, then I reveal a very big (OMG) when I explain what is the heart of this bird, All I did, and what you can do to make it do what I made it do.

Will be posted here this Sunday.
BTW, is my 70 Bat kit completed now? Like I told Irwin in my last phone call, was that all I need is everything but the head and tail system, (I am keeping the head and tail I worked so hard on, so Boom on out is good for me, but want to change it to a carbon boom. He knows this).

Let me know Irwin, Chris.

Jeff
06-12-2008 Over year old.
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JuanRodriguez
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The long awaited 3D vid of my flying 3D is complete, And I also added an FAI/F3C part to it, then I reveal a very big (OMG) when I explain what is the heart of this bird, All I did, and what you can do to make it do what I made it do.

Will be posted here this Sunday

I may have missed it......can you tell us where you posted it ??

Thanx !
06-16-2008 Over year old.
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JA Allen
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Yep, gonna put it on YouTube. Ill put up the link soon. Have some friends checking it out first.

Back to the Bat 70 build ZXX! Any more going up?
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JuanRodriguez
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Maybe I missed it.......??

Was the link to YouTube posted elsewhere ???
06-26-2008 Over year old.
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ripmax
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There will never be any video of any Quick heli doing any form of modern 3D... I think we can all figure out why...
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JA Allen
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Busy doing other stuff at the moment. Its not that important to me, as it is you. Be patient. Plus others are looking at it right now, I will put the link up soon.

And the quick does 3D fine, just ignore these guys, LOL!
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magster
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I would think that with all the QWW owners out there, someone should be able to post a video showing some sick 3d with one of the Quick nitro birds, like the ones on You Tube with T-rex 600N's & Raptor 90's tearing it up. Maybe Ripmax is right.
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