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Thunder Tiger Raptors 30-90 - Imperio > RAPTOR 90 TT Redline 106
 
 
russellglen72
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Location: Baytown tx United states

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tt53

what is the difference between the old and new carb on the 53 redline?
05-29-2009 01:35 PM
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50feet
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"Even if it does eventually come out people will be so over the wait that they'll largely

Like they did that one heli that people swore they would not buy because they were tired of waiting?

I don't know were you have been but one thing these guys like even more than power is NEW. Im willing to bet cash money that even if don't we see it on the shelf for 5 more years (hypothetically)you wont be able to get your hands on it for months because they are flying out as soon as they come in.

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05-31-2009 04:14 AM
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RAPTOR 4D
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Location: GRANGER,IN,-USA

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Russell the old carb in the TT53 was sticking or binding for some.

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05-31-2009 05:20 AM
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Rototerrier
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Location: Fayetteville, GA - USA

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Agree

I have to agree with 50feet...and most likely, by the time it does finally come out, my YS91SR will be worn out and will "conveniently" need replacing.
05-31-2009 11:59 AM
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Sm1nts2escape
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Location: WV

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06-19-2009 09:06 PM
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USNAviationjay
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Location: Sugar Land Tx USA

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Well I tend to agree.. however the Novarossi's are out now and making HUGE power and are not exactly flying off the shelves.

now if it were a OS or YS I could see that. but being that its a TT and people seem to have such a stigma over anything but OS/YS I dont see that happening.

I love my Tt53 and would love a 106.. they need to hurry up..

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06-19-2009 09:11 PM
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50feet
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Novarossi?

What is the biggest they make?

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06-20-2009 03:41 AM
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USNAviationjay
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http://www.novarossi.it/content_uk/...li/r91hr-3d.htm

91 putting out 3.6 hp

Cilindrata / Displacement 14,98cc
Potenza massima / Max. power 3,60 hp
R.P.M (Max. power) 16.000 R.P.M.
Regime di utlilizzo / Practical range 800 ~ 19.000 R.P.M.
Alesaggio x corsa / Bore x stroke 27,70mm x 24,80mm
Accoppiamento
Sleeve N. Travasi /
N. Transfer ports N. 8
Codice / Code 08722
Cuscinetto Poster.
Rear Ball Bearing Tipo di sfere /
Balls type Acciaio / Steel
Codice / Code 16450
Tipo d'avviamento / Starting Helicopter starter
Albero
Crankshaft Tipo / Type 18mm - 5/16" x 24
Codice / Code 15700
Carburatore
Carburetor Tipo / Type 9mm - Rotazione / Rotary
Materiale / Material Alluminio / Aluminium
Regolazione / Adjustment Min / Max
Codice / Code 10491
Tipo di candela / Glowplug type - Codice/Code Short Body - HR4
Tipo di scarico / Exhaust position Laterale / Side
Tipo di miscele / Fuel type Consigliata / Advise: 20 ~ 30% Nitro
Peso / Weight 580 gr.

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06-20-2009 03:51 AM
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restinfine
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Location: INDIANA

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Im going to put a 106 in my Aurora.
07-31-2009 04:24 PM
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rexxigpilot
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Unless the carb is very different from the one used in Redline 53, I wouldn't put a 106 in anything!
08-01-2009 12:45 AM
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AllThumbs
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Unless the carb is very different from the one used in Redline 53

Why? IT's been as good, if not better than any OS one I've had over the years.
Mine has been great.. Easy to tune, Throttles perfectly from zero to hero..
I like it..
08-01-2009 01:23 AM
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BJames111
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Unless the carb is very different from the one used in Redline 53, I wouldn't put a 106 in anything!

I've had ZERO issues with the carb in my 53, (granted it is the second version, I never had the first). It's been a very strong running engine.

Brian James
08-01-2009 04:49 AM
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Billebob
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08-01-2009 11:14 AM
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rexxigpilot
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Thunder Tiger and Ace Hobby's Big Lie!

OK, It seems like Billieboob wants to play! This reminds me of the Guns and Roses song called Civl War. "He wants it so he gets it."

I got my Redline 53 back from warranty repair on Monday. The repair slip said they replaced the piston, ring and sleeve. No mention of anything being done to the carb which was the reason for it being returned. However, it is not the same carb I sent to them. It is a used carb.

I installed the "repaired" engine back in my SDX on Thursday and took it to the field today to check it out. The engine/carb failed again after 4 flights as the video shows (just got it broken in on the first 3 flights and did some easy 3D on the forth).

So, for all my aggrevation with this POS engine, Billeboob calls me a troll. Well, the video doesn't lie, but the reps apparently do!

BTW, I'm using 30% nitro fuel with 22% oil just in case anyone wants to blame it on the fuel.
08-02-2009 01:34 AM
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AMainMaker
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Reps Lie????? Thats funny. I have never lied about any product I have used weather it be a TT product or not. I dont know the blame on the carbs but I my self and my 4 buddies I fly with that fly TT53 engines have not had a carb barrel lock up or have had any issues with the 53 except for tuning. This problem has been solved by adding the thinner of the 2 shims in the shim kit.
I do need to say that using locktite and a snug fit is all I do to attached the carb. If (I said if not saying any does or does not) you crank it down like a crank shaft nut it will warp the aluminum barrel housing and cause it to bind. from thesounds of the squeek in the video it sound like there is zero oil making it to your carb barrel mine does not and has never made such a sound.
Just speaking my point not pointing fingers or trying to get anyone to get flared up at me about this.
Jason Harmon

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08-02-2009 03:19 AM
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blade3d
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That was funny the Video

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08-02-2009 02:14 PM
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leadlag
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Location: London

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Me and a mate had a Redline 53 with MK2 carbs. He had a version 1 and I had a version 2. Yes there are two versions of the mark 2 carbs.

Both the carbs stick. He managed to exchange his for a Novarossi as his was brand new. Mine is 2 months old so I am having to go through the motions of it being sent back to the the distributer. If they send it back and its sticks I will fight to get a credit note as the engine is not fit for purpose.

The carbs stick when hot but are ok when cold. It is very frustrating as the engine runs very well apart from this issue.

Dino, is Thunder Tiger doing something about this? Here in the UK there are alot of Redlines up for sell and people cannot sell them. Thunder Tiger are going to lose alot of sales and get a bad reputation it they do not resolve this issue. They have tried and failed thus far with the new carbs. How difficult is it to make a carb which does not stick?

I for one have been put off buying a 106.
08-02-2009 03:51 PM
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Ace Hobby
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Just to get back on Topic

Hey Guys, just want you to know that your wait will soon be over. At IRCHA this year you will see the soon to be released powerhouse Redline engine. This engine packs some serious power and for those who have the option on gearing this should bring any helicopter to life. So if your tired of getting pumped, regulated or upgraded you need to check it out the Ace Hobby booth at IRCHA.

We will be demoing this engine and you can see for yourself the power and performance that the Redline engine line has.

Also we will have many of our team pilot at IRCHA available to help with any questions or issues you may be having. If you should have a problem stop on by and we will be more than happy to help.

Look forward to seeing you at IRCHA and showing you not only a proven helicopter but also some new and exciting engines that deliver performance that is backed by a 3 year warranty.

See you soon,

Jeff Fassbinder
08-05-2009 12:02 AM
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Gambirro
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Location: Olavarria, Pcia de buenos aires - Argentina

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Ok, finally the 106 reduced to 100...hummm Why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2LsfL5y074
Anyway... Im happy seen TT presenting new products!

Gabriel
08-14-2009 07:34 AM
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Dino Spadaccini
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100

gear was a big reason the 106 was on 7.50 now at 100 we are 7.91 which most other helis have there are few that don't its up to them to work it out

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08-19-2009 02:05 PM
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