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dizzymarkus
Senior Heliman
Location: Oswego, NY

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		cypher 3d

Howdy Franz

Do I know you? lol

Yes I did get it from Marty at Redneck RC. Great bunch of guys there and very knowledgable with the best personalized service I have found. 219.00 not to bad of price either, same as everywhere but no shipping :0) Let me know if you grab one and we'll hook up to fly around and compare setups :0)

Markus
03-31-2008 Over year old.
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Franz45
Heliman
Location: Parish, N.Y.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Cypher 3D

Mark,
You do know me; met me at Marty's about a month ago on a Friday afternoon.Also, I saw you at the Armory at the Saturday sale and fly event. Marty had some pretty good prices on his products there, and I agree he's an all around good guy. Did you solve the overheating problem with the ESC? How's the quality of the heli otherwise?(A question of everyone with the Cypher) I usually get down to Fulton on Sunday. I joined the AMA too, so I'll be flying at The field in Fulton this summer too. Ciao...Franz
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dizzymarkus
Senior Heliman
Location: Oswego, NY

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		cypher 3d

I thought this was you -- lol

Well she went out for some pretty agressive foward flight only. Nothing to fancy as I cant lol but I had er tilted almost 90 degress and pumped it-- flew great and quite responsive. Doesnt like to come down as quick as it goes up :0)

I am totally unhappy with the esc, it doesnt appear to have a LVC --(low voltage cutoff) -- I noticed a bit of power loss and by the time I could land -- 45 seconds -- the battery wouldnt lift its own weight and it tipped over -- fortunataly far from full headspeed :0)-- only breaking a pitch link (hope Marty ordered parts). All in all the heli seems awsome out of the box. I am gonna swap out to an align ESC and see what comes of it :0)

Markus
04-01-2008 Over year old.
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audio131
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Location: swansea , mass , usa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

it does have a low volt cut off , a soft cut around 10.30 volts,, i am using li-mn 2200 mn packs 20c and get about 5.5 min of banging the heli around and probably about 7 in just reg flight,,,

Joseph kelly, ,Outrage formula fuels,,n.e. helicrew club member
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Franz45
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Location: Parish, N.Y.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Cypher 3D

Greetings,
Hmmm,so what's a good time to get out of the cells? I haven't really timed my CP Pro, but I guess it probably isn't much more that five or six minutes. I know that I can be easily fooled when guessing such things. I'll have to time it. Good luck with the new ESC.. let me know how you make out. I was wondering if the overheating ESC is a problem. Do you think that it's just wasting battery power, or are you concerned that it might damage the ESC? Or, maybe both? What is a soft cutoff?
Franz
04-02-2008 Over year old.
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dizzymarkus
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Location: Oswego, NY

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		cypher 3d

Time will vary on amp draws and motor consumption etc -- average seems to be in the 7 - 9 mins of aggressive flight and closer to 10 just flying around. A soft cut off is one that will slowly drop the throttle when discharging and still leave the servos functional :0) Hard cut off -- motors stops when its done lol

IMO stock esc's dont usually pull the grain and its something to get ya started. I am totally unhappy with the esc and will be popping the align in soon :0) There was no warning -- I noticed a slight drag in throttle and started my decent from 20' was completely dead 2 feet from the ground. tipped over slightly and broke a flybar arm so parts ordered :0)

Markus

I think you should grab up the one Marty has and by then I'll have it all figure out :0) j/k -- from what i have flown of it it was a very very nice flying bird :0)

markus
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audio131
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Location: swansea , mass , usa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

you must be using larger than 2100 - 2200 mah packs to get 7 to 9 min of 3d flight,,,,, also using an external bec on all electric helis is highly recomended,,, why would you put the align esc as a replacement ,, that esc is junk too...

Joseph kelly, ,Outrage formula fuels,,n.e. helicrew club member
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drdot
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Location: So. California, Orange County.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		fwiw..

I have hundreds of flights over the last 3 years on Align ESCs...No problems...

John.
04-03-2008 Over year old.
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dizzymarkus
Senior Heliman
Location: Oswego, NY

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Opinions are like -- well you know the saying lol

I have 5 of these aligns runing and never had a rpoblem with nay of em. 7 minutes is more like it but if you maintence your heli right you can honestly gain a minute of flight be making sure no binding and lubed where needed. I dont do 3d :0) Just heavy throttle punching hehehehe

Markus


PS I using an electrifly 2100mah
04-03-2008 Over year old.
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audio131
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Location: swansea , mass , usa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

if you have to get a new esc i would spend the money and get a scorpion ,, or spend a little more and get a jazz,,, also ,, run a 2 amp medusa bec,,,

Joseph kelly, ,Outrage formula fuels,,n.e. helicrew club member
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Optech
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Location: San Diego, CA.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Why would you want to run a BEC with a Jazz on only 3S? The built in Jazz BEC is the best there is and is supposedly good for up to 6S.

I've been running a 4S/Jazz 40-6-18/3000kv motor/HS-65/GY-401/digital tail servo equipped T-Rex for two years now and have never had a problem.

Mike

Viva La Airtronics!
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audio131
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Location: swansea , mass , usa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

more or less a safety feature,, if the esc should ever burn out ,you would still at least have control of the servos,,,i'm building a 450v2 for a customer right now and they are using the jazz with a bec too,, not nessary but prefrence

Joseph kelly, ,Outrage formula fuels,,n.e. helicrew club member
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Optech
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Location: San Diego, CA.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		To do what??? Watch your swashplate twitch to and fro while the heli ragdolls?

These size helis auto like $_it when you plan it much less an unplanned one. No thanks, I'll save the weight, cost and complexity and take my chances on the built in Jazz BEC like just about everything else in life.

Mike

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audio131
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Location: swansea , mass , usa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

true,, they are expensive bricks and drop like they have no blades,, plus you got a good esc,, alot of esc's have only a 5v output also so a bec can offer the 6v output,,,

Joseph kelly, ,Outrage formula fuels,,n.e. helicrew club member
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Optech
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Location: San Diego, CA.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Yeah... 6v output is nice. I've never measured what the Jazz is putting out.

In any case, I was seriously gonna pull the trigger on one of these Cyphers. I've got a full set of gear from another heli I don't want to mess with anymore. But, I just saw the new AH-1 Cobra fuse TT is coming out with for the Mini-Titan and have decided thats the route I'm going. Wouldn't mind a nice scale ship to play around with.

Mike

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audio131
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Location: swansea , mass , usa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

check out helidirect .com they have some scale bodies for cheap.. i even saw a few in there sratch and dent section at discount...

Joseph kelly, ,Outrage formula fuels,,n.e. helicrew club member
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Jetleaf
Senior Heliman
Location: Concord, N.C. - U.S.A.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Is anybody having balance issues?? Mine is very nose heavy with either Kong or AirThunder 2200 packs.
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audio131
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Location: swansea , mass , usa

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

yes they are nose heavy,, i put the esc on the side of the frame,, did a little bit to help but not much,, can also try moving the tail servo towards the back a little bit,, i fly/bang mine around nose heavy,flys pretty good

Joseph kelly, ,Outrage formula fuels,,n.e. helicrew club member
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misskimo
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Location: Alaska 14 years, before mississippi for 31 y

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		not a bad price , they should have a combo deal with radio , gyro and servos

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Jetleaf
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Location: Concord, N.C. - U.S.A.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		They have combos at Rons
04-05-2008 Over year old.
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