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ssc
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Hi Please see this link from Synergy website (16T Pinion Gear)

http://www.synergyrc.com/en/index.p...uemart&Itemid=1
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tec548
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Is this actually available? If so... I'm in!

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ssc
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Hmmm I dont now, this site is so bad when it comes to informations...

I guess there will be a 16T soon
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Long Nguyen
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A quick calculation

I got a brand new main gear so I took it out for measuring and calculating.

There are 124 teeth on a stock main gear. 3.1mm is the pitch range (distance between the top of one tooth and the next one) --> 124mm * 3.1 = 384.4mm is the outside circumference of the gear --> the radius is: 384.4mm/2/pi

We are aiming for a lower tooth main gear, so in order to maintain the pitch range we have to decrease the radius of the main gear.

Right now, on my Synergy I'm using 1mm shims at the engine mounts. In order not to sand down the engine mounts, the decrement in the main gear's radius must not go over than 1mm.

So here is the main calculation:

Let x is the decreased teeth

--> the new circumference = (124 - x)* 3.1
--> the new radius = (124 - x)* 3.1/2/pi
--> the difference between the new radius and the old one = 284.4/2/pi - (124 - x)* 3.1/2/pi

This difference must not go over 1mm so we have the below inequality:

384.4/2/pi - (124 - x)* 3.1/2/pi <= 1

solve that inequality, we got x <= 2.02 --> so it means we can just reduce 1 or 2 teeth at max...--> impossible to have a 118 tooth main gear

If we want to take 6 teeth off, the radius will decrease 2.96mm and that is a lot.

However, above is my calculation and there are many errors in my measuring job (I don't have equipments). The errors could dramatically effect the results.

We could in crease the pitch range a little pit to increase the radius however, the gear mesh will be effected negatively.

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Long Nguyen
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I got wrong pitch range measurement last time i posted so I have just edited my calculation above.

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cJ
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1 dollar... i dont think so..

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cJ
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I just emailed Syngery on time frame and price.


I will post my findings.

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creightoncarr
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I've done the math as well and the motor would have to be moved about 3mm to get the proper mesh. Definitely would require work on the motor mounts which is do-able, but probably not practical for most people. A 16 tooth pinion would be ideal. I spoke with Joel this morning about the new pinion and I am definitely in. I know Synergy lists a 16T pinion, it's even listed in my manual, but I've never seen one available anywhere. If it is let me know, but to the best of my knowledge one has never been made.
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1 dollar

I'm feeling like a big spender today. I'll take two.
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cJ
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LOL..

I just shot TB an email on it to get his two cents.

I think they are working on it now. Interesting.... It did say call for pricing now it says 1 dollar.


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Long Nguyen
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A larger pinion is they way to go IMO. It is easier to design and to progress.

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Himhoe
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I'll take either a 16t pinion or a 118t main gear put me down for one! paypal ready

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cdrking
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So any news from Synergy?

Jeff

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cJ
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Looks like Todd forwarded my email on to Matt..

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tec548
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I received an email from Todd. He tells me that Synergy is making the 16t pinions now and should be available very shortly. We should all be able to have the gears we want soon... and without me having to do anything... just the way I like it!

Joel
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Long Nguyen
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good news! I'll take one...

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cdrking
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What's the latest guys? Any news from Synergy?

Jeff

To hover is divine, the alternative is rather PLANE.
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tec548
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I have not heard or read anything further since my previous email. As soon as I know something I'll let everyone know.... please do the same. If this starts to drag on I'll go ahead and make one.

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http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...?top=1200374489

Anthony.. there is some hope!!!


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creightoncarr
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What's the latest guys? Any news from Synergy?

I heard they contracted out the manufacture of this 16T pinion to Augusto...

I've got a block of steel and a file. I bet mine will be done first.
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