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I just love how some of you diehard's keep standing up for the abuse that Century inflicts on their customers. Bottom line is that the people running Century make many poor business decisions, this just being one of them. The individuals who pay for these bad decisions are their customers.

"We've decided to build a new factory in China and we'll have to screw our customers for months on replacement parts because it is too difficult to plan for such a move. Or, it is too costly to stock up on parts to cover the demand while the factory is being built."

Anyway you chalk it up, it was a poor decision. Some say that soon it will be all over and forgotten and everything will be fine again...until the next screw up by Century management.

Lets see, first, there are the quality control issues with kits that have not gone away. Second, there are constant out of stock issues with replacement parts long before the factory move was made public. Third, when there is a defective or missing parts issue with a kit they make you jump through so many hoops to get it taken care of that it takes any joy of owning or building a Century kit out of the equation.

The list goes on and on.

After months of complaints then Century makes a decision to post on RR and title it, "Dear Valued helicopter pilots". If we were truly valued, they wouldn't have placed us in a position of not being able to get parts for many months for our expensive Century products. If we were truly valued, they wouldn't refer us to Reps on RR for issues that someone at Century should be able to answer. And while I don't agree that they are always rude (because Antonio was always courteous to me even though we disagreed about several issues)there should be someone there who can answer questions about the products they sell instead of saying,"did you try asking someone on Run Ryder?" as I have been told by Antonio on several occasions. Once he told me, "I never built a Predator, so, I don't know the answer". If we were truly valued, they would have corrected the numerous quality control issues with their kits.

Needless to say, customer service at Century has a long way to go and I doubt it will ever get to a point where it will be considered acceptable to most customers. At best, they are paranoid, at worst, they are just ignorantly unconcerned about their customers. I did notice that they were still hawking Predators at the WRAM show in NY a few weeks ago, even though they don't have any to sell. I guess that tells you where they stand.

For all of you Century ra ra's, don't bother posting a reply, there are far more customers complaining about Century's customer service than there are customers praising them. I once read a post where the guy praised them because they sent him a nut that was missing from his kit. I wouldn't have bothered them for a nut, however, they didn't provide me the same courtesy for my defective main gear or missing side-frame. Oh well.
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Century COULD have been a much better company and a lot of us know why first hand.
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I for one will never own a Century product based on this forum and word of mouth at the field,they say the same thing.

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I for one will never own a Century product based on this forum and word of mouth at the field,they say the same thing.




You are basing your decision on this forum? Why? Because they ran out of parts for ONE of their products for the last 6 months? Do you think that the popularity of Century increasing, at a bad moment in their business plans may have had something to do with it? This is the reason you decide NOT to buy a brand? I guess when the new playstation 3 or xbox360 was coming out, and they ran out of them, does that make sony/microsoft junk, or hate their customers? I am not bashing you, but you should inform yourself better instead of taking a small group of people that already had an agenda towards a company before you write it off....

Predator's are flying off the shelf......because century is junk...or all their customers are fools?
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I guess when the new playstation 3 or xbox360 was coming out, and they ran out of them, does that make sony/microsoft junk, or hate their customers?
They didn't incur or expect their costomers to suffer a 6-7 month long delay for product.

Let's keep the comparative examples realistic.
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Third, when there is a defective or missing parts issue with a kit they make you jump through so many hoops to get it taken care of that it takes any joy of owning or building a Century kit out of the equation.


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I once read a post where the guy praised them because they sent him a nut that was missing from his kit. I wouldn't have bothered them for a nut, however, they didn't provide me the same courtesy for my defective main gear or missing side-frame. Oh well.


I finally remembered why Century is having such a problem with parts shortages.....The two quotes above jogged my memory !

In reality, Century does have all of the spare parts you'll ever need in their warehouse awaiting shipping......

So why don't they ship the parts ???

The problem is that Century has not had the chance to get one of their key pieces of equipment up and running yet at their new plant.....

What machine would that be, you ask ??

Why it's their CNC/ABC/CBS Electron Magnaflux Triple Multiplex Super Duper Turbine Powered parts kit manager.

These machines are used to weigh each part that goes into their production kits....... that way, when someone calls in to complain about missing parts in the kits they can call the customer a "liar" because they have weighed each and every part that has been placed in the kit box.....and they will add in a rude and sarcastic way, "It is impossible for US to make a mistake"........
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I for one will never own a Century product based on this forum and word of mouth at the field,they say the same thing.
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You are basing your decision on this forum? Why? Because they ran out of parts for ONE of their products for the last 6 months? Do you think that the popularity of Century increasing, at a bad moment in their business plans may have had something to do with it?


Not just this forum ,I also read other forums and word of mouth with guys at my flying field who bitch aboutr the same thing and other building/structure/quality issues. I don't remember specifically what structure quality issues as I don't own one or care for that matter.

I also base my opinion on the fact my Miniature Aircraft Gasser Company has parts, has sevices it can provide and is more than willing to talk on the phone ,has it's own upgrades + aftermarket. A great company with many products
In other words I am very happy with them and have never been let down.
I am not against you Century owners,,I feel real bad for you. You are real happy with their product ,which is great and are now stuck,,,that sucks,,you shouldn't have to deal with this is all. I am on your side!!
I'll also say that I never had this problem with my Raptor's, or my TREX or my Blade CP or my V1 Shogun Electric.
If I was unhappy with what own ,now ,I still would not consider buying a Century Gasser now. Can you blame me? Don't think so.

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bellecrank
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Well, livving in Canada I have not had problems getting parts from my LHS.

Due to the terrible winter we have had this year I have not had much chance to fly my Predetor GS after a crash due to an RX battery problem (NiMh are not a good match with all digital servos).

I finally got around to ordering the parts - got them all and had my test flights today.

I had almost forgot how much I loved this heli - man is it a sweetheart.

Now after the reminder, I would wait for parts, if I had to, just for today's experience.

This is my third gasser - and the other two do not even come close!
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Juan,

Funny post! I have experience with the Century "We weigh all the bags and know they can't be short any parts, so, you must be lying" propoganda. It's amazing how this company does business. Accuse a customer who just spent $1300.00 for one of their products a liar because they complain about a missing part.

jester4,

I'll be the first to admit that the Predator gasser flys great, but, these things are very different from a Playstation 3 or Xbox 360 in that, once attained, customers don't need replaement parts due to crashes or wear and tear or even, dare I say it, a defective part in the kit. I haven't heard anyone say how they botched an auto with their Xbox 360 and couldn't get a tail rotor drive shaft for two months.

Bottom line, we spent big money on these things and expect a reasonable amount of support for replacement parts. Century fails miserably in that department. No matter how good a product is without support from the manufacturer it is useless. Also, Century has numerous quality issues not only with many of their parts and parts fit, but with kit completeness as well.
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My concern is that people were complaining about parts shortages with century before, so they take the steps to open a new manufacturing facility to aleviate this problem, and still get stomped on for making a mistake in the "overlap" of inventory to new stock. I think that is unfair. I admit it was a mistake, and they expressed that in their comments here on RR. As far as my comparison to the xbox/playstation, it still stands. There are many people waiting for new kits, and not just the support part of it. As far as quality goes, I cannot compare to too many different brands, I have flown TT, Kyosho, and Century, and I cannot honestly say that there is a huge difference between them.
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"My concern is that people were complaining about parts shortages with century before, so they take the steps to open a new manufacturing facility to aleviate this problem, and still get stomped on for making a mistake in the "overlap" of inventory to new stock. I think that is unfair"

Jester I think that is a good point. I think as consumers it is unfair of us to continue to berate a company who is trying to make changes. It is one thing for a company who just ignores customers complaints but when a company is trying to improve it products and customer's relations I think it is up to us to give them a little benefit of the doubt.
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Tone

I don't know alot, but I know what works for me!......................Memiors of a Schleprock.
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"My concern is that people were complaining about parts shortages with century before, so they take the steps to open a new manufacturing facility to aleviate this problem, and still get stomped on for making a mistake in the "overlap" of inventory to new stock. I think that is unfair"

Jester I think that is a good point. I think as consumers it is unfair of us to continue to berate a company who is trying to make changes
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BS. Do you both own stock in the company? Why are you "making up senarios" as to why they are having problems?? This kind of bad press will make Century better if they have it together. We shall see. Since when are consumers are the instigators of problems with a product?
Why do you baby this company?? They are big boys ,,have homes and kids,many are very well off ,they better shape up. I have no sympathy for them and neither do their competition.AND neither should you!!
I think as consumers we have every right to complain about anything that keeps us from using their product as often as we want.
If I owned a Century product ,I Would Be Pissed Off!! I don't care what their problem is. If I were one of you Century owners I would not let up on this pressure till it really clears up,,then post the GREAT things about this company!!

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Amen Turbo
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turboomni ,

You speak like a person that has not lost sight of the "big picture"....
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Once bitter, will always stay bitter, no matter what.........

My reasoning is from a customer standpoint (shareholder), you obviously have your own issues and no matter how much someone will praise, you will find something to put down.

Some of you argue about parts shortages, and they buy a manufacturing facility with 10 cnc machines, then you guys will argue why they didn't buy 11 machines and they are incompetent....

This is my last post on this......I have said all I can say......no enemies made (hopefully).
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If I were one of you Century owners I would not let up on this pressure till it really clears up

If you are NOT a Century owner what is your beef? What company do you have stock in that you have made it your campaign to try and discredit what century has done right?

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Believe it or not guys, I am on your side! I own no stock in any heli company. If my Raptor had the same problem as you can be sure I would bitch and moan over it.As a matter of fact years ago I and many others bitched and moaned over the prices of parts for the Shogun V1. The prices were the same as Raptor parts! We did it here on RR . We got a responce from the company and prices came down,,alot. I have heard good things about the Century Gasser's and alot of guys like them,,I am not knocking the heli at all. I see a whole season down the drain with one good crash. I don't think it's fair for you to have to take this lying down. Why are some of you trying to excuse the company? Is it just intense product loyalty that enables you swallow this news?

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If you are NOT a Century owner what is your beef? What company do you have stock in that you have made it your campaign to try and discredit what century has done right?
Come now . . . . .
That's a bit like saying that Jessy James was really a good guy because he gave some of his goods to the poor (the poor sure liked him). Sure he did some good, but that does not wipe out the bad.
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If you are NOT a Century owner what is your beef? . . . . . . . . . .
Stupid comment really . . . . . since I have already stated I'm trying to buy one.

Latest word is May 15th . . . . . . . we'll see.
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May 15th? I hope so for all you folks so you can have a good season of flying!

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