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Synergy R/C Synergy N9 > Tail bounce ??
 
 
ade
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Location: UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hi All

Posted this in the Radio section

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t322768p1


Any help would be great

Ade
02-19-2007 Over year old.
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cdrking
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Location: Seattle

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Link is not valid.


Jeff

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ade
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Location: UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		sorry here is the question then =




Hi All

I have a Synergy with a Logictec 6100t Combo in it and when i piro left or right then stop i get a bounce in both directions. Not a crisp stop like to futaba and csm gyro's.

Servo arm is set to 16mm with a gain of 50% in heading lock mode. The gyro is not wagging in Fast forward flight and engine is running smooth with no vibe's on machine.

Os 91 Szh = Low needle = as from OS at 12 o'clock
Mid Needle = 4 clicks from cloed
High Needle = 7/8's from closed
Fuel is wildcat 20 % helimix

Gyro is in 3D mode not f3c,When it was in F3C mode it was worse. Reciever is in futaba mode and Smoothing is set to defult with no binding either direction.I have a -40% expo on rudder both ways to calm the tail round center in each flight mode.

Any Ideas guy's, would be really great if u have any experiences with this set up and advise on this

Also what gain is everyone running on there 6100t's ?

Thanks


Ade
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cdrking
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Location: Seattle

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Not familiar with that gyro but do you have any delay set for starting and stopping?

Jeff

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RyanW
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Location: Oklahoma / Illinois

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Ade, I tried one out on my friend's T-Rex 600 over the weekend. I know that it isn't the same as the N9, but the gyro/servo combo seemed to perform well. I will get his set up tomorrow and post it.
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RyanW
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Location: Oklahoma / Illinois

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		These are my friend's settings. He hasn't tweaked it at all because it worked so good with close to standard settings:


gain- 65% high, 45% low
center trim-0
end point-100%-100%
flight mode- F3C
performance-standard
Smooth control-7%
02-21-2007 Over year old.
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the hitmaker
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Location: ATL. GA.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hey ade

did you fix the problem yet?
02-22-2007 Over year old.
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ade
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Location: UK

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i have not fixed this yet i will try to up the gain to 65% or untill i get a tail wag

any other suggestions
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cdrking
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Location: Seattle

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Did you have to modify the tail thrust bearings in this kit?

Jeff

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ade
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Location: UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

i did not have any issues with this and all fits nicely and not too tight

ade
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Ricky.m
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Location: u.k

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		The gyro sensor needs mounting at the rear of the main shaft, have you put it in this position?? or up front!!
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ade
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Location: UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hi

I have it up the front at the moment, a friend of mine has the same gyro and it is up the front and does not bounce ? do u think this will this make a dirrerence. if u have a synergy where do u have your gyro?

ade
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wolfcbr2003
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Location: Washington

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		ADE

Hello ADE

I have mine mounted in the rear. No tail bounce. There was a wag problem with mine but that was due to oversize thrust bearings in the blade grips. Is your Torque tube with the hexes on either end straight. Take it out of the Tail boom and spin it on the table. Your hexes might not be true. Could be causing excess vibrations. Just an idea.


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Ricky.m
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Location: u.k

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Ade 110% this is your problem, especialy if you run a decent size battey pack up front and depending on how ridgid the tape used to hold the sensor down is, the issue is alot of mass woking as one against the G10 mont plate at the front of the heli resulting in movment on hard stops, no doubt some setups will be fine depending on gain ect but it's well worth isolating the sensor from this environment

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bobj
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Location: United Kingdom

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hi Ade

As others have already said, try mounting the sensor at the back of the model, my proto model had it at the front to start with and going to the rear mount made a noticable difference to the performance of the 611.
Although the Synergy is a rigid design there is still a little flex on the radio tray.

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Bob
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ade
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Location: UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hi All

I mounting the sensor at the back of the model, going to the rear mount made a noticable difference to the performance of the 6100t and i now do not have any bounce well not what i could see today but it was a bit windy today.


Cheers

Ade

If you are not crashing u are not flying hard enough?
03-12-2007 Over year old.
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