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Gasser Model RC Helicopters > Broom handle for tail boom.

7379df
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Yea, I know it sounds crazy but the 855mm tail boom for pred. gassers are on back order and im ready to get this thing flying again. So here's what happened. I was looking around shop for some metal with dial indicator in hand that was 21 mm on outside. I came across a short piece that looked like thin pipe, and happened to be 21 mm. So I them checked the inside dim. and it was around 19.5mm. This would be same size as Heavy duty Xtra long tail boom. See pic
below. So I was trying to figure out what or where it came from and realized it was off of a metal broom handle. So off to the hardware
store I went (with dial indicator in hand) and i found a 4.99 metal broom with yellow plastic on it and assumed this had to be the one.
Got it back at shop and stripped off the plastic and sure enough it was exactly same size as original boom. So I cut to length carefully
and verycarefully drilled holes in both ends. That was the tricky part. Slide the torque tub right in and fit like a glove then checked the 2 plastic side pieces that hold boom to frame to make sure holes worked and they did. So ill try to keep everybody posted on how it will fly. When you dont want to sit around and wait for back orders this just might work. Ill also send some pictures sometime. Darren

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I guess I hope that works out for you and performs okay

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Cool! Now THAT'S resourcefulness. . .

I really want a status report when you get this thing flying. BTW, what brand was the broom and what store did you purchase it from?

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Yep! i've went that route before and they work fine! you can still use it as a broom until you need to to take the "r" out of it!

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Store and broom brand name would be helpful. Nice find. How much was the broom?

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avator he said 4.99
is it long enough to cut 2?
i want to know how it flies please
and brand name would be great

oh & GREAT JOB on the find

now torque tub who knows where we can find that?

only you have the power to make no difference!

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eyeflyhelis
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oh & everytime i find 1 hd tail boom i order at least 2

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Hey Guys just came in from assembling tail boom. Well so far so good. The hardest part is drilling the holes on the ends.
I used a drill press and carefully marked the first hole from the
end of tube and very slowly drilled the first hole. You must drill
slowly so it wont tear out. The second hole on opposite end must be exactly parallel to the other one. So i took another drill bit that would fit snuggly without falling out and slide it in the end, then while its in the clamp on the drill press I very carefully
rotated the "broom" until the drill bit sticking in the first hole was exactly lined up or parallel with drill bit in drill press.
Then very slowly drill the last hole. I then took 320 grit sandpaper
and sanded the "pez wa du" out of it. Cleaned it and sprayed it with a laquer finish to keep it from rusting and it also looks cool.
Kinda like brushed aluminum.
Another thing I forgot to say is you may want to make some kind of
jig to hold the tube, I had a vise that bolts to the table of drill
press. And I would drill for more than one if you are set up.

Now bare with me on this cause Im not 100% sure it will work. It will be awhile before I get to fly because im still waiting on parts to come in. I know that the tail gear box and the other box that attaches to frame absolutely fit like a glove and locked in place very solid like there supposed to. Also you want to check how true or straight the "broom" is. If its a few thousandths out i mark the high side so I can drill perpendicular to the high or low side. Mine had very slight bow and I put the bow down when I assebled on heli. I had a newly purchased boom I bought some months back and was curious to how straight it was before assembling. I laid it on a 4' level and the 2 ends would touch but could see light through the middle. My "broom" wasnt any worse than this one I purchased. Before any body puts to much time and work in it let me try it first
and Ill be sure to let you know. Also Ill get you the exact brand of broom. It was purchased at Ace hardware. Dont forget it will be a little while before I can test. And Ill also try to send some pics.
Later, Darren

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I know guys, that have been doing that for years now, and it work great, I think they are using Osker brooms.

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now torque tube who knows where we can find that?

Arrow shafts bought from a sporting goods store. They work great and are pretty cheap.

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Hey Christopher, Could you explain what an arrow shaft is ??
And you say these work for a torque tubes ?? Thanks

, Darren

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eyeflyhelis
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Darren you can buy aluminum arrow shafts (use for BOW & ARROW usage) - like the Indians used against the cowboys

but these are much better quality. these are to replace a broken arrow. also available in wood.
anyway i didn't even thing of that thanks.
oh yeah & more importantly What diameter?
will it fit into the stock bearings?

if im not mistaken the shafts are <$1 for a ok one aren't they?

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I guess you can say it "Sweeps" the competition!!

and one more thing "DON'T BE AFRAID!"

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Hey Eyeflye, Yeah I get it now, Arrow as in bow and arrow, Ok
Im not as think as you dumb I am.

For some dumb reason I was thinking he meant name brand "Arrow". Im with it now. Anyway, it would be nice to come up with a "homemade" torque tube. Usually when a torque tube is bent the bearings, ends of the shaft and plastic deals that hold the bearings are still good. The problem I seen is how to get both ends off of the shaft. I tried driving
the pin out, no problem, but when I went to take it off it wouldnt budge, either they are pressed on or just really snug. I didnt
spend much time trying, will get to that later. But I did measure the O.D. of tube and it was .25" or 6.35 mm I believe, so if we could find Sakajowea and measure some of his arrows,

and
make sure we can get them at exactly .25" then I will try to look into taking those ends off. Later Guys!!

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To get the ends off, ones you take the pin out, you need to heat them up, I have taken mying off that way.

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WalMart has carbon arrow shafts cheap.

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mcfast, do they use some kind of glue ?? If they do we would have to glue them back on as well as installing pin.
Darren

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I was refering to carbon or aluminum arrow shaft for arrows. The reason I brought it up was because JR use them in the Vigor CS and I had some buddies a while back lawn darting thiers while learning new maneuvers. On occasion torque tubes would be is short supply with on line shops, and also a trip to the sporting goods store you could get several arrow shafts for what one torque tube cost online. The one on the Vigors just happened to have "Easton" stamped on them along with the model numbers.

For other helis one would have to take a pair of calipers to the store with them to measure the selection of shafts until finding the right one.

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I use blue lock, it will soften up if you heat it, if you have to take the ends of again.

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aluminum arrow shaft is ok, but not carbon for TT

The carbon ones are not designed to carry torsion loads. Carbon rods that are designed to do so are sprial wrapped

keepin' it real

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